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S.J.SLEEPER 04-10-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LS1ow (Post 823981)
thought meth was just an add on ?!


10 gauge 2.5" Stainless/Mild Steel good for the hotside ?

yes. 2.5" from mani to 3.5"merge shaped to fit T4 flange.
16g is fine.
use stainless!!!!

PTE46mm wastegate ....comes with flange you weld onto pipe
jgs blowoff or turbosmart raceport blow off

use meth!!! unless you plan on running race gas.
install nozzle in front of iat... so when meth empty, ecm will retard for higher temp.

S.J.SLEEPER 04-10-2012 04:21 PM

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FYI: I have an extra stainless 1/2" thick T4 flange if interested.
also, no need for nos spray bar. just get a quality meth/alky kit.

If your not using a divided exhaust housing, you can grind the divided area out.
$20 shipped & its yours.
I also have some random 1 3/4, 2 1/2, & 3.5" stainless pieces hangin around. may have some intercooler piping & couplers too.. just have to go through my extra box of chet.

LS1ow 04-10-2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S.J.SLEEPER (Post 823986)
yes. 2.5" from mani to 3.5"merge shaped to fit T4 flange.
16g is fine.
use stainless!!!!

PTE46mm wastegate ....comes with flange you weld onto pipe
jgs blowoff or turbosmart raceport blow off

use meth!!! unless you plan on running race gas.
install nozzle in front of iat... so when meth empty, ecm will retard for higher temp.

so 2.5 into a 3.5 for the merge? i was lookin at the sticky on tech and i think he used 2.5 threw out. ill find pics...

anytips on how the hell to get 2 pipes into 2 squares ?!

LS1ow 04-10-2012 06:04 PM

"(3) 2.5" Mandrel U-bends for the merge pipes"

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...t/P1000422.jpg

LS1ow 04-10-2012 06:07 PM

and the whole needing meth thing is new to me ? i always thought meth was just an add on for more power ?

coolmanvette75 04-10-2012 08:06 PM

Some people use meth to make up for having compression slightly higher then desirable...

S.J.SLEEPER 04-10-2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by coolmanvette75 (Post 824024)
Some people use meth to make up for having compression slightly higher then desirable...

kinda....definitly a must for higher C.R. when running pump gas cuz....
meth cools the intake charge drastically...cooler denser air, means your able to run more timing, and higher boost along with its affect of "higher octane" meaning more hp, and reduced detonation.

meth straight can be used as a power adder and cool intake charge at same time
meth/water mix will mostly only cool the intake charge and add a few points to the octane (not much)

LTb1ow 04-10-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by coolmanvette75 (Post 824024)
Some people use meth to make up for having compression slightly higher then desirable...

You sound silly.

Even with a 9.0CR, 20#s will put you on the ragged edge of pump gas, and any lower CR will be a complete dog out boost.

Meth evens the field out.

sweetbmxrider 04-10-2012 09:51 PM

Ever stick your hand in washer fluid? Multiple that by 100, welcome to meth.

LS1ow 04-11-2012 06:32 AM

lol so looks like a meth kit is added to the list...

Snow ?

LS1ow 04-16-2012 05:10 PM

boxes are being to gather.

B4C 04-16-2012 06:07 PM

Go here for v-bands cheapest stainless ones ive found
http://www.amazon.com/Clamp-Flange-T...4617584&sr=1-8

LS1ow 04-18-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by B4C (Post 825181)
Go here for v-bands cheapest stainless ones ive found
http://www.amazon.com/Clamp-Flange-T...4617584&sr=1-8

ive heard some bad stuff about godspeed(there turbo kit) so idk about going with them clamp, but ill try find some reviews

LS1ow 04-19-2012 04:44 PM

anyone got some advice on fabbing up the merge ? and how the hell to get round pipe into 2 rectangles on the the T4 !?

LTb1ow 04-19-2012 05:18 PM

Semi decent walkthrough.
http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/di...bkqfst9ffmcqn0

You could PM or call these guys...
http://www.modularturbo.com/

Suuposedly, mild steel with flange is $65 shipped, but that was from 2008

Here is a newer link
http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalog...be0020a4f119d0

Not a bad price pending how you value your fab time.

S.J.SLEEPER 04-19-2012 05:25 PM

kinda hard to explain.....
measure the width & height of total opening (pretend split in flange wasnt there)
say its 2" x 4"
total linear length is 12" (if you were to add all sides)
12" divided by 3.14 (pie) = 3.82"
so.... you need to have a 3.82" round pipe (that you would heat & form to a square to fit flange)

if your using 2.5" pipes from manifold..that equals 5" pipe, you need to cut wedge of each pipe to merge them togetherforming a 3.82" pipe.
so doing math again you would need to take off a 1.88 linear inches off each pipe at which ever angle the 2 pipes are merging together.

tip: always best to build merge first and work your way back towards manifolds with pipping

S.J.SLEEPER 04-19-2012 05:27 PM

if you havent made one or bought a t4 flange yet, I can fab you up one this weekend out of stainless.

LS1ow 04-19-2012 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S.J.SLEEPER (Post 825839)
kinda hard to explain.....
measure the width & height of total opening (pretend split in flange wasnt there)
say its 2" x 4"
total linear length is 12" (if you were to add all sides)
12" divided by 3.14 (pie) = 3.82"
so.... you need to have a 3.82" round pipe (that you would heat & form to a square to fit flange)

if your using 2.5" pipes from manifold..that equals 5" pipe, you need to cut wedge of each pipe to merge them togetherforming a 3.82" pipe.
so doing math again you would need to take off a 1.88 linear inches off each pipe at which ever angle the 2 pipes are merging together.

tip: always best to build merge first and work your way back towards manifolds with pipping

Quote:

Originally Posted by S.J.SLEEPER (Post 825840)
if you havent made one or bought a t4 flange yet, I can fab you up one this weekend out of stainless.

ya know i was just going to heat and form it into a square but i figured that was not how it should be done lol doesnt seem to hard anymore:mrgreen:

and thanks for the offer but i already got all my stuff lol


so now plan is like this

1. make t4 merge
2. make the v-band connections for the manifolds
3. connect them

LS1ow 04-24-2012 05:36 PM

completely forgot bout the wastegate lol


so correct me if im wrong, WG is on the hotside, BUT it has to be at a point were both pipes go into 1 ? so the WG has to go right after the merge but befor the flange itself ?

LTb1ow 04-24-2012 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LS1ow (Post 827054)
completely forgot bout the wastegate lol


so correct me if im wrong, WG is on the hotside, BUT it has to be at a point were both pipes go into 1 ? so the WG has to go right after the merge but befor the flange itself ?

Could run two WG if you want real good control.

Or just weld in a pipe like this.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...cture030-1.jpg

LS1ow 04-25-2012 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTb1ow (Post 827055)
Could run two WG if you want real good control.

Or just weld in a pipe like this.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...cture030-1.jpg

2 WG is for ballers. im ballin on a buget.

Jersey Mike 04-25-2012 08:48 AM

If you can't make it rain, at least make it drizzle a little bit

LS1ow 04-25-2012 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jersey Mike (Post 827189)
If you can't make it rain, at least make it drizzle a little bit

i already made it Snow performance


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