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BonzoHansen 11-12-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by unstable bob gable (Post 858752)
I remember seeing a Cosworth Vega in a magazine years ago, and the owner had ditched the stock FI for some side draft Webers. Had all kinds of other mods, too. Pretty neat car from what I remember.

And to see a Vega now a days that hadn't rusted on the show room floor is just plain good. :)

all true!

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 858751)
600 lbs. difference stock. Cozy Vega is 2700 lbs. stock, Opel is 2100 with the 1.9 Litre, and in the teens with the 1.1 Litre engine and options missing.

Power to weight ratio

DZ 302 Camaro - 0.10 hp/lbs. ( w/ 400hp and 3,765 lbs.)
Opel/Cozy engine - 0.12 hp/lbs ( w 240hp and 1,900 lbs.)

I love weight talk. a race trim z28 is probably closer to 3200 lbs. it's longer & wider too, I'd guess and that should help on a road course, at least to offset some of the weight. To be apples to apples let's estimate a basic race trim z28 with a far more reliable drive train

600hp / 3200 = 0.1875 hp/lbs
550 / 3200 = 0.1719

huh.

vega has a half decent suspension for racing. not sure what the opel has or how easy it is to get parts. can you even get parts for it? you cannot overlook the entire package in the single name of weight.

plus it would be silly to take apart a good cosworth vega. it's a cool little car.

I'd rather build a mustang II with an LS motor in it. put some stickies on it and some other stuff and go racing. far better than an old opal and a troublesome cosworth motor. An ecotech, a honda vtec or hell even a full built quad 4 is better. I can think out of the box. But you have to identify the bad, more expensive, albeit maybe 'cooler' boxes lol

different can be cool. the cosworth vega is cool. a fiero with a northstar or lsx for instance. it can be stupid too, like a 3rd gen with 24s on it, one with a turbo 2.8L.

I'll take cubic displacement for $500 Alex.

Blacdout96 11-12-2012 03:45 PM

Well then Bonzo, lets do this, go buy, or build an authentic DZ Z28, Ill build my Cozy Opel, and see which one is better. Numbers are numbers really, until you put them to the test. Then, when were done, we'll put our bills together of what it cost, and see which one was more bang for you buck.

WildBillyT 11-12-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 858758)
Well then Bonzo, lets do this, go buy, or build an authentic DZ Z28, Ill build my Cozy Opel, and see which one is better. Numbers are numbers really, until you put them to the test. Then, when were done, we'll put our bills together of what it cost, and see which one was more bang for you buck.

http://www.publispain.com/posters/you_got_served.jpg

BonzoHansen 11-12-2012 03:50 PM

i bet I can build a solid 302 cheaper than a solid cosworth! :)

302 is proven, parts are ample, as is knowledge.

hey, school us. show us how to build that motor and costs. I'll give all props on it.

what if we put my 600hp SBC into that opal!

Blacdout96 11-12-2012 03:56 PM

It would probably tear in half. In fact, it would be looney tune style, where the front half stays still, but the back half would spin like a propeller

BonzoHansen 11-12-2012 04:01 PM

LOL

http://content9.flixster.com/photo/1...060291_gal.jpg

unstable bob gable 11-12-2012 04:05 PM

Back in da day there were lots of V8 powered Opals being put together, mostly as drag cars. I'd like to see one done up with a hi-po 4 cylinder.

Hey, whatever floats your boat. Different is cool. I want a Viper, was ready to look at Chargers, and ended up with a Caliber SRT4, lol.

sweetbmxrider 11-12-2012 06:52 PM

They have opal's from time to time on pass time and they go fast.

Featherburner 11-12-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 858750)
Flathead fords can go fast too but I wouldn't want one of them either.

Really? I'd love to have one!

Blacdout96 11-12-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by unstable bob gable (Post 858764)
Back in da day there were lots of V8 powered Opals being put together, mostly as drag cars. I'd like to see one done up with a hi-po 4 cylinder.

Hey, whatever floats your boat. Different is cool. I want a Viper, was ready to look at Chargers, and ended up with a Caliber SRT4, lol.

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 858789)
They have opal's from time to time on pass time and they go fast.

http://www.dinosaursandrobots.com/20...-drag-car.html

Tubalicious!!!

BonzoHansen 11-12-2012 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Featherburner (Post 858832)
Really? I'd love to have one!

It would just sit on your shelf

Featherburner 11-13-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 858843)
It would just sit on your shelf

Still would be cool!

Blacdout96 11-29-2012 11:34 PM

Found another little gem. I'd rebuild this, and stuff a 331cu Hemi with a 4 speed to her, and have a blast at vintage festivals.....oh and make it road legal!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-...item2325995a49


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