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LTb1ow 06-22-2010 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 711719)
Yeah I have talked to two guys on ls1tech about pull outs. Price difference is not much.

Yea but a pullout would be from a stock ish non drag raced engine.

I dunno, seems like a real risk, or a good gain.

z28rob18 06-22-2010 12:03 PM

i have one from a truck its a POS but would work as a core to get rebuilt

enRo 06-22-2010 01:49 PM

Al, I dunno how long you plan on waiting for a trans, but I'm pulling my 4L60e for a T56 I recently picked up soon... just don't know how soon. I'd be willing to let it go dirt cheap if you need it. It's still in the car, so if you wanted to take it for a ride to see how it runs, it's all good.

WildBillyT 06-22-2010 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by enRo (Post 711774)
Al, I dunno how long you plan on waiting for a trans, but I'm pulling my 4L60e for a T56 I recently picked up soon... just don't know how soon. I'd be willing to let it go dirt cheap if you need it. It's still in the car, so if you wanted to take it for a ride to see how it runs, it's all good.

^ this

BigAls87Z28 06-22-2010 03:42 PM

Thanks Noah ill let you know.

BigAls87Z28 06-23-2010 04:23 PM

If anyone wants to stop by today, let me know. Im home early from my meeting so Ill be hangin outside. Dunno what to do now that everything is cleaned out. I was gunna jack the back end up and start to prep for gas tank removal. I should get a pump and suck out that gas....

transmaro93 06-23-2010 04:40 PM

just let the tank down and then siphon it out after wards... that what i did... getting it back up with the tank full is harder than getting it out... and its a pain to siphon the gas out from the filler neck... dont think im gonna make it today though unless adam wants to pick me up... i just dont feel like driving..

LTb1ow 06-23-2010 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 712037)
If anyone wants to stop by today, let me know. Im home early from my meeting so Ill be hangin outside. Dunno what to do now that everything is cleaned out. I was gunna jack the back end up and start to prep for gas tank removal. I should get a pump and suck out that gas....

yea got the sister's graduation nonsense and a final tmmr, so I am a no go tonight.

Friday evening I'll help you drop the rear if you haven't already.

BigAls87Z28 06-23-2010 04:51 PM

I think Im gunna skip out on it tonight. I got my Corvette valley pan in the mail today. Might give that a try.

BigAls87Z28 06-23-2010 09:50 PM

Alright guys, Im trying to think of what kind of SFC's to go with. Ive searched on TGO and it seems to run the gambit in reguards to what fits better with the LS1 swap.

Third gen guys, what have you got?

LTb1ow 06-23-2010 10:07 PM

Now, I am a newb on the lameness of third gens... but you said the LS1 fits into stock crossmember, so why the need for different SFCs?

Mike 06-23-2010 10:08 PM

exhaust routing?

LTb1ow 06-23-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 712150)
exhaust routing?

I dunno?

I am going off 4th gen style and 2 points do not come anywhere near interfering with exhaust.

I dunno. :?:

Mike 06-23-2010 10:11 PM

yeah but its run differently on a third gen...

the floors should be the same though, al could probably use 4th gen subframe connectors and it will work

BigAls87Z28 06-23-2010 10:15 PM

4th gen's front subframe is totaly different, different mounting points.

Its not a matter of a totaly different style, but there are several different times. Some run inside the frame rails, some run outside. Some are tubular, some are boxed. The problem arrises with the LT's and custom Y pipe, plus a bit of rerouting the exhaust around to meet with the I piple.
Standard y pipes for LT'ed small blocks will apparently not work. Dunno why since they would exit in the same manner, and 4th gen y's wont either/

LTb1ow 06-23-2010 10:16 PM

Looks like they all try to do a three point setup.
http://a925.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...93563625d4.jpg

So the exhaust is the issue Al?

BigAls87Z28 06-23-2010 10:21 PM

Exhaust can be an issue for some of them, tight fitment can be another. Ive looked at UMI's stuff and its pretty strong. Ive been reading over on TGO and some say its meh fitting, some say it fits like a dream.

LTb1ow 06-23-2010 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 712164)
Exhaust can be an issue for some of them, tight fitment can be another. Ive looked at UMI's stuff and its pretty strong. Ive been reading over on TGO and some say its meh fitting, some say it fits like a dream.

Can't they be custom made?

And why are you worrying bout SFCs ?
They certainly will not help that LS1 get into that turd gen, start doing the harness.

BigAls87Z28 06-23-2010 10:36 PM

Im really leaning towards sending it out. I guess its possible to knock it out in a few days, but its gunna be a biiiitch.

Alright, looking at three different different sets
Alston Racing gets fantastic reviews on TGO
UMI and BMR are tied for reviews. Some have said that welding in both the Alstons and the BMR's make the car super ridged, but why anyone would want to add that much weight to thier car unless they are pushing some serious power is beyond me.
Price wise, Alston's are the cheapest.

sweetbmxrider 06-24-2010 07:28 AM

i bet its going to be a bitch to get sfc's to fit well on a car from 87, especially 3 points.

worry about the exhaust after you have a motor and headers in so you can actually SEE wtf is up :)

BonzoHansen 06-24-2010 07:29 AM

Cant you use the same exhaust after the cat? Maybe some custom work up front.

BigAls87Z28 06-24-2010 08:17 AM

Custom work for the y is already known. That's the problem and why I need to worry about the sub frames
now and not later. No one makes a well fitting y pipe for this swap yet.

BigAls87Z28 06-24-2010 08:18 AM

Custom work for the y is already known. That's the problem and why I need to worry about the sub frames
now and not later. No one makes a well fitting y pipe for this swap yet.

BonzoHansen 06-24-2010 08:19 AM

Welcome to modifying a car! Have one made, maybe try Mufflex. AAA Plus will tow you this far for free. :)

WildBillyT 06-24-2010 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 712248)
Welcome to modifying a car! Have one made, maybe try Mufflex. AAA Plus will tow you this far for free. :)

If the OD of the tubing is the problem, look into having a y made with oval tubing. The equivalent of 2.5" round is only 1.75" oval. Pricey, but again- it is a swap.


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