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Kojak 04-13-2008 09:28 PM

Assist by Stahl..?

alamantia 04-14-2008 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Knipps (Post 437553)
WTF was that dancing in front of brodeur??
& then callahan tackling him

Who did callahan tackle?

Untamed 04-14-2008 08:21 AM

Winning a game by crap goals will not help the Devils win the series. Yeah it's a win, but damn, if they can't find a way to defeat the system they used to use themselves, then the Rangers will go on.

I wonder how many Ranger fans are cheering on their team after condemning the Devils system from the 90's, back when they used to use it? How you like them apples now?

I'm a Devils fan, but my hat's off to the Rangers, and especially Henrik. They used to talk about Brodeur the way they mention Henrik now "He had an average night, not a bad night, and the Devils managed to score on him 4 times." Only they didn't really score on him the 4th time. If the Devils need to rely on Henrik having an "average" night, then they haven't figured out how to win yet.

Brent Sutter needs to look at some older film of the Devils from the 90's and play the same conservative game they used to play - let the opposing team rush a lot, break up the play, and let them get tired. Then towards the end of the 2nd and all of the third, scate circles around the opposing defense and score once or twice to win the game. Boring, as some say, but effective.

And WTF is up with Avery? And WTF is up with Parise getting beat up all the time? At least the officiating wasn't as bad as game 2.

alamantia 04-14-2008 08:33 AM

I didnt see the rangers trap yesterday

shane27 04-15-2008 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Untamed (Post 437700)
Winning a game by crap goals will not help the Devils win the series.

correct, it will only help them win a game or two

alamantia 04-15-2008 08:43 AM

Devils will be going down 3-1 wed night cause they can not stand up to the Rangers

Untamed 04-15-2008 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by alamantia (Post 437704)
I didnt see the rangers trap yesterday

This is the first season where I have seen the Rangers effectively play a very defensive-minded game. It's a smart way to play. It's not the trap per-se (with the current rules you really can't play the trap), but it's a change of pace for the Rangers from their more typical offensive scheme.

The second thing they have going for them this year, which the Devils seemed to forget, is the benefit of having large, experienced players. The Devils have some fast, nimble skaters who are finesse style players. In the past, they were more of a power team, spending time just outside the crease, fighting with the defense for position to catch the deflection or rebound. They just don't have the big players to hang near the crease this year. On the other hand, the Rangers have the larger players with the 2-3 play makers they need to set up the play then fight up front for position / shots. Combine the size of the players with the defense scheme and its a wining combo.

Having said all that, the Devils spent time in #1 because they are a very good team. But this season the Rangers just figured the Devils out. Luck, and a major Devils blunder each game, help the Rangers win. They kept saying it all year - the team who blunders first, probably looses.

One thing we have to take note of here, for game 4 - each game the Devils continue to improve, to a win on Sunday. If the trend continues, and the Devils dont blunder, they could win the series.

35thls1ss19 04-15-2008 05:48 PM

they weren't really crap goals. When you get the puck on net they go in. They have outplayed the rangers the hole series. The refs have made some terrible calls! And when the devils go down by 2 goals then been crumbling.

Your sayin the rangers goal that martty gave them, or the goal were our defense just left the puck wide ope in front of the net was skillful goals? Avery is the terriblall he is there for is to agervate which he does an amazing job at. but to come into the series -5 and have three goals? none of his goals were skill they were giving to him by devils mistakes. Devils stop giving up chances and keep outplaying them and putting it on net goals will come just like sunday. Rangers been having a ton of breaks... the first game devils hit the post 3 times, the refs have been making terrible calls towards the devils. calling an iceing while were killing a penalty?! Salvador hitting it out of the air going out over the boards and calling that delay of game?! Wake up refs! series will be tied after tom! 2-2 GO Devs!!

WayFast84 04-15-2008 06:00 PM

The only way the devils can win against the rangers with out the "crap goals" would be by slowing the game down alot. Especially in the garden, slow the game down so much all the fans start booing...

shane27 04-15-2008 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 35thls1ss19 (Post 438132)
they weren't really crap goals. When you get the puck on net they go in. They have outplayed the rangers the hole series. The refs have made some terrible calls! And when the devils go down by 2 goals then been crumbling.

Your sayin the rangers goal that martty gave them, or the goal were our defense just left the puck wide ope in front of the net was skillful goals? Avery is the terriblall he is there for is to agervate which he does an amazing job at. but to come into the series -5 and have three goals? none of his goals were skill they were giving to him by devils mistakes. Devils stop giving up chances and keep outplaying them and putting it on net goals will come just like sunday. Rangers been having a ton of breaks... the first game devils hit the post 3 times, the refs have been making terrible calls towards the devils. calling an iceing while were killing a penalty?! Salvador hitting it out of the air going out over the boards and calling that delay of game?! Wake up refs! series will be tied after tom! 2-2 GO Devs!!

they werent crap goals as much as they were lucky goals, and both temas have had them. also dont forget jagr hit the post in the game were the devils hit 3, but hitting the post is not hitting the back of the net as we all know.

as for averys goal having no skill? what do u call the wrist shot thru traffic to beat marty high?? i think there was plenty of skill in that shot, and not all shots are skilled shots, but when they shots arr taken is a whole different skill.

i also very much disagree the the devils have outworked the rangers. its been pretty even though i think the rangers have look a **** ton more dominant at times.

im not going to argue the calls that have been made though the officiating this whole season as been abysmal. as for your devils winning the series or even tieing it at 2, i seriously seriously doubt it.

35thls1ss19 04-16-2008 08:13 AM

well we will see tonight :)

Teds89IROC 04-16-2008 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 35thls1ss19 (Post 438132)
they weren't really crap goals. When you get the puck on net they go in. They have outplayed the rangers the hole series. The refs have made some terrible calls! And when the devils go down by 2 goals then been crumbling.

Your sayin the rangers goal that martty gave them, or the goal were our defense just left the puck wide ope in front of the net was skillful goals? Avery is the terriblall he is there for is to agervate which he does an amazing job at. but to come into the series -5 and have three goals? none of his goals were skill they were giving to him by devils mistakes. Devils stop giving up chances and keep outplaying them and putting it on net goals will come just like sunday. Rangers been having a ton of breaks... the first game devils hit the post 3 times, the refs have been making terrible calls towards the devils. calling an iceing while were killing a penalty?! Salvador hitting it out of the air going out over the boards and calling that delay of game?! Wake up refs! series will be tied after tom! 2-2 GO Devs!!


As long as the Rangers can keep the stupid penalties to a minimum I think they have a really good shot at winning the series.

Oh yea, smacking the puck with the stick up and over the boards while it's mid air is perfectly legit, I guess the refs shouldn't have called it and they should have kept playing :roll: :lol:

Go Rangers!

alamantia 04-16-2008 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Teds89IROC (Post 438367)
As long as the Rangers can keep the stupid penalties to a minimum I think they have a really good shot at winning the series.

Oh yea, smacking the puck with the stick up and over the boards while it's mid air is perfectly legit, I guess the refs shouldn't have called it and they should have kept playing :roll: :lol:

Go Rangers!


heh heh...

shane27 04-16-2008 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Teds89IROC (Post 438367)
As long as the Rangers can keep the stupid penalties to a minimum I think they have a really good shot at winning the series.

agreed, they have been taking a lot of penalties which will wear out any team after a while from killing them off

LETS GO RANGERS!!!! :nod::nod::nod:

alamantia 04-16-2008 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by shane27 (Post 438388)
agreed, they have been taking a lot of penalties which will wear out any team after a while from killing them off

LETS GO RANGERS!!!! :nod::nod::nod:

Naaa, the Ranger'S have not been taking bad penalties the Ranger has, #55 Backman is good for like 4 stupid penalties a game.

LS1Hawk 04-16-2008 12:00 PM

Rangers all the way!

Untamed 04-16-2008 12:02 PM

Let's go Dev-ils! *clap, clap, clapclapclap*

HENRIIIIIIK!!!!!!

BonzoHansen 04-16-2008 12:07 PM

Who makes the NHL schedule? Why does it take 2 weeks to play 7 games? Man, it used to be 2-off-3-off-2. This takes too long.

35thls1ss19 04-16-2008 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Teds89IROC (Post 438367)
As long as the Rangers can keep the stupid penalties to a minimum I think they have a really good shot at winning the series.

Oh yea, smacking the puck with the stick up and over the boards while it's mid air is perfectly legit, I guess the refs shouldn't have called it and they should have kept playing :roll: :lol:

Go Rangers!

yea that should be a penalty? that was done no where near on purpose not even tryign to clear it. If you try to clear it out and bounce off the broads or towards the broads and it goes out i can see delay of game but to try and knock it out of the air and it go over i dont think so. i guess the iceing call while the devils were on a penalty kill is a good one too huh? lol rangers fans........... GO DEVILS!!

Kojak 04-16-2008 01:38 PM

It could be anyone's game tonight they've gone against each other in four games now and both teams know how the other is going to play the game. The Rangers have been playing a good defense but they'll get tired after some good hits towards the end of the game. I just hope for some better refereeing and more fights this game lol.

Untamed 04-16-2008 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kojak (Post 438449)
It could be anyone's game tonight they've gone against each other in four games now and both teams know how the other is going to play the game. The Rangers have been playing a good defense but they'll get tired after some good hits towards the end of the game. I just hope for some better refereeing and more fights this game lol.

Yeah Clarkson's highest and best use is a third period rumble. Too bad the Devils dont have Cam Jansen still. That guy was a scrapper.

Teds89IROC 04-16-2008 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 35thls1ss19 (Post 438446)
yea that should be a penalty? that was done no where near on purpose not even tryign to clear it. If you try to clear it out and bounce off the broads or towards the broads and it goes out i can see delay of game but to try and knock it out of the air and it go over i dont think so. i guess the iceing call while the devils were on a penalty kill is a good one too huh? lol rangers fans........... GO DEVILS!!

well I don't know who tries to bounce the puck off the "broads", maybe the boards though. and no one "accidentally" swings their stick upwards to hit the puck to keep it in play. Especially since the direction he was facing was the boards.

Edit about the icing, I didn't know you were talking about the other game

Knipps 04-16-2008 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Untamed (Post 438472)
Yeah Clarkson's highest and best use is a third period rumble. Too bad the Devils dont have Cam Jansen still. That guy was a scrapper.

I'm a devils fan but man, Janssen could hardly skate :lol:

alamantia 04-16-2008 07:57 PM

im really getting tired of martys diving

alamantia 04-16-2008 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alamantia (Post 438019)
Devils will be going down 3-1 wed night cause they can not stand up to the Rangers

Lets go RANGERS


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