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BigAls87Z28 09-12-2008 09:32 AM

You wouldnt need a back up car...that is the beauty of this car!

The biggest problem, as seen here, with an electric car is that it needs to be plugged in and charged right?
YOU DONT NEED TO DO THAT! This can be your ONLY car!
The Volt will go farther then 40 miles. You will just now use an onboard engine not to power the wheels, but to act like a generator! And getting about 50 miles per gallon, with 8 gallon tank, thats a 400 mile range, plus the 40.
Tell me what car in your current garage/driveway/whatever gets 440 miles on 8 gallons of gas?
None of them.
/thread

Volt solves the problems of electrical cars of the past.

Obama has already said that if President, 7k rebate for the Volt from the Goverment.
McCain is also talking of major rebate due to American made/ American Company.

12secondv6 09-12-2008 09:35 AM

Dodge Neon gets 100 mpg!

Nuff said!

:moon:

WildBillyT 09-12-2008 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti_Rice_Guy (Post 486128)
Ummmm Tim and Bill....it's not just powered by battery. It has a small gas motor and was supposed to get like 100 mpg or something. It can go like 600 miles on a tank or some other ridiculous number. You wouldn't need another car just to go long distances, unless you wanted a bigger one.

I recognize this. I was speaking in terms of using it as battery only, therefore getting the most benefit from it being an electric car. After that it seems to me it's like any other high mpg gas powered car. I would still want a backup car for long trips and such because I know that it won't be the most reliable thing in the world, and it looks like it would not be comfortable for me on long trips because I'm a larger person.

Tru2Chevy 09-12-2008 10:23 AM

55 MPG sounds pretty good to me

And as long as dealers don't "market-adjust" the crap out of them, it sounds like we'll be able to pick one up for $30-35k all said and done. Not too shabby. That only leaves the question of service. How much will it cost, and where (besides a dealer) are you gonna be able to get it serviced? How much will new batteries cost in XX years when the current ones die?

- Justin

BigAls87Z28 09-12-2008 02:44 PM

Batteries, since they are part of the emissions system, are warrantied like every other emission part on your car...150k miles.
There is talk of GM covering the warranty of the battery for longer.

Tru2Chevy 09-13-2008 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 486257)
Batteries, since they are part of the emissions system, are warrantied like every other emission part on your car...150k miles.
There is talk of GM covering the warranty of the battery for longer.

That's pretty good.

- Justin

12secondv6 09-14-2008 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 486257)
Batteries, since they are part of the emissions system, are warrantied like every other emission part on your car...150k miles.
There is talk of GM covering the warranty of the battery for longer.

Are you sure? Does GM put this in writing.... for all cars??
I did not know batteries are considered part of the emissions system - is this something new?? Maybe for electric cars?

Knipps 09-14-2008 09:50 AM

I'm pretty sure it's just for the volt. It's not as simple as a regular car where you can swap it and go.

BigAls87Z28 09-14-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 12secondv6 (Post 486866)
Are you sure? Does GM put this in writing.... for all cars??
I did not know batteries are considered part of the emissions system - is this something new?? Maybe for electric cars?

GM doesnt have too...the Goverment did.
Like any emissions control devise, they MUST be coverd under warranty for 100-150k miles or 10 years. Thats every car maker, every model, everything.
The Toyota Prius's hybrid batter and system follows this, as well as every other hybrid car out there.
The 12 volt battery isnt, but the battery that allows these cars to obtain the gas milage range as well as low emissions due to the engine being turned off, must be coverd.
GM has talked since day one about doing something about the batteries. What GM did in the past with the EV1 is lease the car out only as no one wanetd to take on the full responsability of the expense of replacing the battery.

Kojak 09-14-2008 08:46 PM

Why did it take so long to go from this:
http://image.motortrend.com/f/editor...ee-quarter.jpg

to this:
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/ima...caa64aef_o.jpg

Give the hippies their electric car and stfu :lol:...

Tsar 09-14-2008 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kojak (Post 487115)
Why did it take so long to go from this:
http://image.motortrend.com/f/editor...ee-quarter.jpg

to this:
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/ima...caa64aef_o.jpg

Give the hippies their electric car and stfu :lol:...

Ill take this one instead

http://www.carzi.com/wp-content/uplo...roadster_1.jpg

Tru2Chevy 09-14-2008 09:04 PM

The Tesla Roadster is nice for sure....but base price is $109k, and IIRC, the total range is ~250 miles.

- Justin

LS1Hawk 09-14-2008 09:08 PM

How "energy efficient" is this car going to be? I keep hearing commercials saying to unplug your PC, clocks, radios, etc. when you're not using them. If everyone has an electric car and we're all charging them up, won't that just be adding to a different problem?

qwikz28 09-14-2008 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LS1Hawk (Post 487136)
How "energy efficient" is this car going to be? I keep hearing commercials saying to unplug your PC, clocks, radios, etc. when you're not using them. If everyone has an electric car and we're all charging them up, won't that just be adding to a different problem?

most people will be charging at night anyways when power usage is minimal

Tru2Chevy 09-14-2008 09:11 PM

If "everyone" had one, it would be a huge issue, since power grids in many larger urban and suburban areas are already being pushed to their limits. But a couple in each neighborhood isn't going to bother anything, and that's the most we can expect anytime in the next several years.

As far as how much it would actually raise your utility bill, I dunno. Would be interesting to see if it would be cheaper to plug it in at night during off peak hours, or let the gas motor recharge the batteries.

- Justin

1_Hot_SOM_WS6 09-14-2008 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah (Post 484975)

Now thats one hawt Civic!!!! :wink:

BigAls87Z28 09-14-2008 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 487141)
If "everyone" had one, it would be a huge issue, since power grids in many larger urban and suburban areas are already being pushed to their limits. But a couple in each neighborhood isn't going to bother anything, and that's the most we can expect anytime in the next several years.

As far as how much it would actually raise your utility bill, I dunno. Would be interesting to see if it would be cheaper to plug it in at night during off peak hours, or let the gas motor recharge the batteries.

- Justin

Gas motor wont recharge the batteriers. It will only power the electric motors.
To recharge the batteries, it will just have to be plugged in.
GM is working with the electric companies to make sure that the Volt is aware of what time of the day it is as for the rate of charge it will take.
Mid day in July when its 105* outside, the Volt will take at a lower rate to not put a heavy pull on the grid.
But a cool October night, 68*, the Volt will pull at a higher rate.

Tru2Chevy 09-14-2008 10:12 PM

That's pretty cool....I wonder just how high of a rate it's capable of charging at.

- Justin

Savage_Messiah 09-15-2008 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1_Hot_SOM_WS6 (Post 487186)
Now thats one hawt Civic!!!! :wink:

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: :banghead:

Tsar 09-15-2008 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 487135)
The Tesla Roadster is nice for sure....but base price is $109k, and IIRC, the total range is ~250 miles.

- Justin

If i had the money I would rather buy that Tesla than GM-Honda looking thing. Its just plain ugly, and not worth anywhere near 40k. :shrug:

79CamaroDiva 09-15-2008 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 485647)
I did a quick survey at work...I am the only one that travels more then 30 miles to work every day out of 6 sales people, 2 managers, and 17 techs.

you work at sears, that is hardly the career choice for most people, let alone anyone doing any kind of commuting. sears are a dime a dozen, of course there isn't going to be much of a commute.

BigAls87Z28 09-15-2008 11:50 AM

Guys I work with have over 30 years with Sears. They have been there since when it was a carreer.
Im not talking about tire installers...Salesman and Mechanics that have been grandfathered into every Sears program for three decades.

Tsar 09-15-2008 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 487423)
Guys I work with have over 30 years with Sears. They have been there since when it was a carreer.
Im not talking about tire installers...Salesman and Mechanics that have been grandfathered into every Sears program for three decades.

Your "survey" has sample selection bias written all over it, there for it's irrelevant.

Brando56894 09-15-2008 02:31 PM

i was going to say "and its ugly as sin" but it actually doesnt look that bad

1_Hot_SOM_WS6 09-15-2008 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah (Post 487296)
:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: :banghead:

HAHA...I know you are waiting for me to take you for a spin in my hawt whip....hahaha. ;)


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