on these cars, yes.... g bodies.. whole 'nother car

correction. on 4th gens the hardtop and ttop got the same structure. all other generations they were cut into an existing hardtop.



ive owned one of all. i have to say i enjoy ttops immensely but theres nothing like pushing a button and letting the sun soak in. verts are only good for cruising anything else and youd need a more rigid structure

Awww Nick!

Uuuh yeah! I didn't know the joys of a vert until I got my hands on one! Totally effortless! I don't think I've taken my T-Tops off my Formula in over a year cuz I'm too lazy. lol

I think T tops are cool, but I prefer the simplicity of hard tops. I wouldn't dismiss a car because of T tops, but I definitely wouldn't own a convertible.

You guys are saying that a 4th gen t-top car is as structurally sound as a hardtop car?

Kinda sorta, yea.
Have you seen the T top conversion write ups?

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_i...161_medium.jpg

You only cut the side bars out, so yea you are weakening the car, but I always figured the hard top had more under it.

i've never experienced t tops or a convertible (fbody).

OK, you corrected yourself. Thanks.

Yup, although its still not much to really be removing.

You're cutting a section of steel that connects points a and b and replacing it with something that "latches" in. Now, I'm not an engineer but, I don't think it takes one to figure out which one is stronger.

t-tops

yeah but how much of a difference does it really make?

the roof of a car, especially a unibody car, is a significant structural piece. can you get away with cutting it? Sure. would it be stronger if it was left intact? Yes.

ETA: think about it like this. all the weight between the front and rear wheels is pushing down on the floor, which in turn is trying to push the top of the front windshield towards the top of the rear hatch.

Yea, install SFCs and you will see how weak the cars are.

ok i understand. i do have subframe connectors i need to weld in, eventually

I've been through enough t-top and convertibles and I have no need for either any more. I hate the leaks and squeaks with t-tops and I don't care to have the sun beating on me while driving the car so I prefer a hard top. I don't even take the t-tops shades out of my SS. I get enough sun out on the golf course and in my boat.

Woohoo! I figured I was the only one. LOL hardtop FTW.

Vert hands down, I'd almost rather have an LT1 vert than my t-top LS1, almost.

s'ok. you've got a face even a mother couldn't love. :mrgreen: we can't all be gorgeous george.

T-Tops hand down.

I only like T/A drop tops, especially Brian's (BlackBird) & Franks (Fozzi).

3rd & 4th gen cars need a B-Pillar, it just defines the shape of the car to me.

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No, and even fewer can be a nice looking nick.

T-Tops, AND I should be biased in other directions.

t-tops

verts are for the west coast and florida, hard tops are for up north like in canada, main, NH, and other cold places i wouldnt wanna be and t-tops are for all the other place