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NastyEllEssWon 06-05-2009 04:31 PM

its been long enough for me....Pics or it didnt happen :nod:

Formulalt1 06-05-2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 598059)
i remember hearing somewhere the basic rule of thumb is like 10 hp per extra psi of boost you put down

This is a serious post ? :shock:.


:rofl:, Boost or pressure is a measure of resistance and depends on the CFM of any given supercharger or turbo. The same blower on one motor with the same exact pulley will have a different amount of PSI if put on a different motor so there is no basic rule of thumb when it comes to boost, it is a calculation based on the resistance of the heads, intake and so on and the prior power of the motor.

Formulalt1 06-05-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroJoe1987 (Post 598069)
well after tinkiering with the car for 2 days, I found out its not running because of the Optispark, somehow coolant go to it and started leaking on it, so now I am looking to an ls1 conversion, that opti has got to ****in go, does anyone know of who might have one and be willing to sell it? or atleasdt kno where i can find one?

Its leaking out of the weep hole on the WP most likely. Switch to a electric water pump and put a new cap and rotor on it (and clean out the inside, I usually use wd40 and then blow it dry). Once there is no more moisture most likely it will be fine. You seem to have no patients though, you just got the car and already you are looking to scrap a 600 horse LT1? :-?

JerzyIroc 06-05-2009 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 598076)
its been long enough for me....Pics or it didnt happen :nod:

ttiwwp or :bs: sorry dude..

98Gsxr750 06-05-2009 10:32 PM

def congrats on the car. Should be a monster out on the road. Hold on tight!

Mike 06-05-2009 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Formulalt1 (Post 598155)
This is a serious post :shock:.


:rofl:, Boost or pressure is a measure of resistance and depends on the CFM of any given supercharger or turbo. The same blower on one motor with the same exact pulley will have a different amount of PSI if put on a different motor so there is no basic rule of thumb when it comes to boost, it is a calculation based on the resistance of the heads, intake and so on and the prior power of the motor.

so it makes more power than a proven 383 running 8psi?

Formulalt1 06-05-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 598187)
so it makes more power than a proven 383 running 8psi?

It could. Are you saying its not possible for a 355 to make more power than a 383 with different parts in each? (and possibly a different compression ratio). My main point with that post was that 1. It is very possible and 2. that there is no rule of thumb on how much each pound of boost makes on a car. It is different from car to car and motor to motor. It is all based on how much power you made prior to the boost and if the blower can move enough air without baking it too much.

Mike 06-05-2009 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Formulalt1 (Post 598190)
It could. Are you saying its not possible for a 355 to make more power than a 383 with different parts in each? (and possibly a different compression ratio). My main point with that post was that 1. It is very possible and 2. that there is no rule of thumb on how much each pound of boost makes on a car. It is different from car to car and motor to motor. It is all based on how much power you made prior to the boost and if the blower can move enough air without baking it too much.

i understand, but your also jumping to take his word at VERY optimistic numbers with nothing to back them up. he stated he doesn't know whats in the motor, he hasn't stated what model blower, and he hasn't posted a dyno sheet.

JerzyIroc 06-05-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 598194)
i understand, but your also jumping to take his word at VERY optimistic numbers with nothing to back them up. he stated he doesn't know whats in the motor, he hasn't stated what model blower, and he hasn't posted a dyno sheet.

Or pics :wink:

CamaroJoe1987 06-05-2009 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Formulalt1 (Post 598157)
Its leaking out of the weep hole on the WP most likely. Switch to a electric water pump and put a new cap and rotor on it (and clean out the inside, I usually use wd40 and then blow it dry). Once there is no more moisture most likely it will be fine. You seem to have no patients though, you just got the car and already you are looking to scrap a 600 horse LT1? :-?

im not looking to scrap the car, just the optispark and do an ls1 conversion on it, the opti is class A retarded for this car, its a bitch and a half just to do sparkplug wires on a stock LT1, since it has the supercharger, there is literally no room for that

V 06-05-2009 11:03 PM

well u got 3 month to get it running, we'll run for fun when i return... i have a stock v6 "ss" clone...

CamaroJoe1987 06-05-2009 11:04 PM

ok, guys, understand im not conserned about posting pics yet, im trying to get the thing running, im pretty sure more than half of you would be too, so just plz be patient, and i will TRY to get them posted over the weekend

Formulalt1 06-05-2009 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 598194)
i understand, but your also jumping to take his word at VERY optimistic numbers with nothing to back them up. he stated he doesn't know whats in the motor, he hasn't stated what model blower, and he hasn't posted a dyno sheet.

I have seen dyno sheet's and dyno video's and ET's and Traps of cars with similiar stuff done and the only thing I will state for sure, that I know for a fact is, its possible. If the car made 425 - 435 at the wheels without a blower and is showing 5 PSI on a gauge, I would bet money it is very very very close to those numbers cause thats what it should be making with that amount of pressure. Do I believe that his car is making what he says it is making 100%, no. Do I feel like calling someone a liar cause while its possible it might not be the case cause more than likely it isn't the case, no. I would hope that if I state something I know to be true, you guys would take my word for it as long as I didn't come out of left field with some crazy claim. So knowing it is possible do I prefer to take his word on it, yes. Would I be shocked if it was a 420 RWHP car with 8lbs and stock pistons that are about to explode, no :lol:.

Mike 06-05-2009 11:07 PM

you convinced me, i believe it makes 300 more hp than stock

so whats done to the chassis/suspension to make this magical monster go?

Formulalt1 06-05-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 598201)
you convinced me, i believe it makes 300 more hp than stock

so whats done to the chassis/suspension to make this magical monster go?

Whats harder to believe. A cam only LT1 that traps 120MPH in nearly 11 seconds flat or a supercharged 355 Head cam package that dyno's 570 to the wheels?


http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305819

CamaroJoe1987 06-05-2009 11:22 PM

http://www.yearone.com/images/parts/v/vs93.jpg

ok, this is the same exact thing under the hood, this is as close as it will get until the pics are posted, with a list of parts that I know of to the best of my knowledge, as of right now, I know it has comp cams camshaft, comp cams rocker arms, ported intake manifold, port and pollished heads, the headers at the moment are unknown, from cat-back it goes to a y-pipe, the pistons are unkown, crank is unknown, has Vortech ignition/boost control, Vortech fuel management system which still needs to be intalled. I dont kno wat is done to the ECU, aparently from the last owner, the car isnt governed(im waiting to put his money where his mouth is on that one), it still needs brakes, and rear suspenion, and I still have to figure out why it wont start, so there is pleanty for me to still learn about this car. just plz be patient for the pics guys

Mike 06-05-2009 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Formulalt1 (Post 598208)
Whats harder to believe. A cam only LT1 that traps 120MPH in nearly 11 seconds flat or a supercharged 355 Head cam package that dyno's 570 to the wheels?


http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305819

its easy to believe the cam only car, HE POSTED NUMBERS, not guesses at what the previous owner told him

Formulalt1 06-05-2009 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 598187)
so it makes more power than a proven 383 running 8psi?

BTW, I have a 383 LT1 running nearly 8 PSI :rofl: that at least 4 members from this board have seen and believe me I would prefer it if he wasn't making that much cause I'm not :lol: but I just like to give people the benefit of the doubt unless I know they are wrong or its just too far out there to be true.

CamaroJoe1987 06-05-2009 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 598211)
its easy to believe the cam only car, HE POSTED NUMBERS, not guesses at what the previous owner told him

look, dont sit there and mock me, its a given i dont kno much about this car, but all the stuff i am saying here is supposedly wat this car has, im still in the process of fixing the thing so i can see wat it really has goin to the wheels, I would be more that happy to post all the pics i can take, but its just gunna take me time cuz its not at the stage where i want it to be, you guys can believe me or not, you guys can say ur opinions about it, but all the stuff INTERNALLY is UNKNOWN at the moment or going by word of mouth by the previous owner, I do plan on seeing wat it has entirely, and there is some paparwork not yet recieved from the previous owner based on an agreement of purchasing the car, so wen i get everything from the guy, ill post, until then, sum of u guys r just gunna have to chill and be patient

Mike 06-05-2009 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroJoe1987 (Post 598219)
look, dont sit there and mock me, its a given i dont kno much about this car, but all the stuff i am saying here is supposedly wat this car has, im still in the process of fixing the thing so i can see wat it really has goin to the wheels, I would be more that happy to post all the pics i can take, but its just gunna take me time cuz its not at the stage where i want it to be, you guys can believe me or not, you guys can say ur opinions about it, but all the stuff INTERNALLY is UNKNOWN at the moment or going by word of mouth by the previous owner, I do plan on seeing wat it has entirely, and there is some paparwork not yet recieved from the previous owner based on an agreement of purchasing the car, so wen i get everything from the guy, ill post, until then, sum of u guys r just gunna have to chill and be patient

funny, i don't recall saying anything about you. he asked which is MORE BELIEVABLE, and since one is backed with numbers and proof, that AUTOMATICALLY MAKES IT MORE BELIEVABLE

CamaroJoe1987 06-05-2009 11:49 PM

im just sayin i got the car 2 days ago, and pulled an allnighter last night to try and get it running, and it still isnt, im just more preoccupied in getting it running than posting afew damn pics, im pretty sure that alot of the guys would do the same, maybe they wouldnt, but everything is comming soon, i just want the thing on the road first

Formulalt1 06-05-2009 11:58 PM

Good luck with the car. Let me know if I can be of any help.

CamaroJoe1987 06-06-2009 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Formulalt1 (Post 598230)
Good luck with the car. Let me know if I can be of any help.

thanks, ill pm you if i have any questions 2morro

jims69camaro 06-06-2009 04:48 AM

score.

maroman88 06-06-2009 06:50 AM

im not guna say anything............


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