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LTb1ow 08-17-2009 06:05 PM

Only hating cause you LS1 boyz hate.

Circle logic. :)

sweetbmxrider 08-17-2009 07:42 PM

honestly neither is hard to work on, especially when you are just ripping the crap out :)

Triple-A 08-17-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 626978)
honestly neither is hard to work on, especially when you are just ripping the crap out :)

True! when you take out old/stock parts and put back in new shiny good aftermarket/performance parts... :drool:

enRo 08-17-2009 08:06 PM

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Slow-V6 08-19-2009 08:01 AM

When I had my 98 V6 firebird I thought that car was a pain in the ass to work on. Then I got the LS1 T/A and thought that was a pain to work on. Now we have the LT1 also and that seems to be a pain to work on. Its just the F-body platform all together.I dont think it matters what engine they put in it its still a Pain especially if you are not use to working on them!!

MonmouthCtyAntz 08-19-2009 09:05 AM

Like posted previously, all V8 4th gens are a pita to work on. The LS is just easier then the LT.

98tadriver 08-19-2009 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KirkEvil (Post 626665)
What? You could practically disassemble an entire ls1 car with a 8, 10, and 15mm wrench.

lol i was just telling my friend about that the other day!

98tadriver 08-19-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NJNETSFAN (Post 626928)
I did that when I put the headers in...not a problem. Just take all the emissions crap off and it's a walk in the park.

lol i have trouble getting my hand/arm to the rear pass side plug. i do that one from underneath with a sparkplug socket and a ratchet wrench

sweetbmxrider 08-19-2009 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz (Post 627546)
Like posted previously, all V8 4th gens are a pita to work on. The LS is just easier then the LT.

xplain, i mean no offense but you didn't even put on a tranny cooler. that is pretty hard to screw up, though i have seen it happen....on an ls1 :-?

LTb1ow 08-19-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 627576)
xplain, i mean no offense but you didn't even put on a tranny cooler. that is pretty hard to screw up, though i have seen it happen....on an ls1 :-?

Annnnd response?:rofl:

Mike 08-19-2009 06:26 PM

my plugs take 10 minutes....whats wrong with you people?













oh wait, i dont have a heater box and soon to be no ecm in my way :)

transmaro93 08-19-2009 06:32 PM

wow! good call.. i didnt realize how much it opens up the side for plug changes when you delete the ac box.... sweet... now im really happy i did it!!!! haha my car is going to be so "plaint jane" and simple under the hood i dont think anything will be hard to work on anymore... damn ls1 nut huggers.... ls1's really arent that much easier to work on... they slightly are for tune ups and such.. but thats about it... the rest of the car is pretty much the same... i still dont understand why you guys hate on the lt1 so much... loosers..

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 627774)
my plugs take 10 minutes....whats wrong with you people?













oh wait, i dont have a heater box and soon to be no ecm in my way :)


maroman88 08-19-2009 08:11 PM

third gens FTW in this category! easy to work on and u can see the whole engine :)

Frosty 08-20-2009 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by maroman88 (Post 627824)
third gens FTW in this category! easy to work on and u can see the whole engine :)

Uh oh, you just opened up a can of worms there, lol. On a side note I catching crap from a seriously arrogant LS1 owner over the weekend. Apparently L98's aren't supposed to last 140K...they usually blow up a lot earlier...they don't last as long as LS1 in any situation I was told.

Gotta love it :rolleyes:

dugeman 08-20-2009 06:21 AM

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F-body's get even harder to work on when you stuff a 632 cu/in. Dart big block in one.

CJDZ24_Z28 08-22-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JL8Jeff (Post 626582)
There's really no difference working on an LT1 car vs an LS1 car. It's the 4th gen engine compartment that is FTL! Stop whining until you have to change out the passenger side AIR check valve on a 93 LT1! The LS1 was a bigger PITA when it comes to the rear passenger side spark plug and wire when doing headers and I've done them on both engines. The best thing about the LS1 is that it makes a good 30-50 hp more than an LT1 with the same mods and still idles smooth as can be and passes inspection easily! :nod: Radiator! Give me a break! 8-)

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JEFF YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING! ALl you have to do is remove the passenger side coilpacks and you have easy access. I changed all the plugs and wires on my 00 Vette and my back them 00 Formula in less than 2hrs taking my time. ALso did headers on my last 00 Formula with a member here took us less than 4hrs from beginning to end. It took me a hour to run my plug wires on my last LT1 a few years back and i wouldn't do it again.

I do love the LT1 sound and the front end of LT1 cars. Also owned one with 180k that ran like a top

THE LS1 IS EASY TO WORK ON FOR ANYONE WITH ANY KIND OF MECHANICAL SKILL!!!!!

BonzoHansen 08-22-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CJDZ24_Z28 (Post 628642)
THE LS1 IS EASY TO WORK ON FOR ANYONE WITH ANY KIND OF MECHANICAL SKILL!!!!!

Based on what I see around here and other places, you don't even need that. :rofl::rofl:

JL8Jeff 08-22-2009 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CJDZ24_Z28 (Post 628642)
JEFF YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING! ALl you have to do is remove the passenger side coilpacks and you have easy access.

So 30-40 minutes later after removing the AIR pipes, moving the wire harness, trying to find the rear coil(you can't even see it) I would have had the starter dropped on an LT1 and the plug out and new one in and starter back in place. LS1's are not easier than LT1's to work on in a 4th gen. They each have their different PITA parts to deal with.

Firebird67dude 08-22-2009 05:08 PM

Atleast LT1 are REAL 350 ci. not 346. MY LT1 has 190000 and runs 13s all day with only full exhaust.

Some LS1 people seem like the most arrogant people on earth. God bless the LS1. Put it to rest already its a dinosaur motor. Theres the LS2, LS6, hell theres an LS7 and a niner in there right? LS1 and dinos. update ur motors.

If i get this new jobie I'll have a N/A LT1 motor that will put most LS1s to shame.

LTb1ow 08-22-2009 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebird67dude (Post 628665)
Atleast LT1 are REAL 350 ci. not 346. MY LT1 has 190000 and runs 13s all day with only full exhaust.

Some LS1 people seem like the most arrogant people on earth. God bless the LS1. Put it to rest already its a dinosaur motor. Theres the LS2, LS6, hell theres an LS7 and a niner in there right? LS1 and dinos. update ur motors.

If i get this new jobie I'll have a N/A LT1 motor that will put most LS1s to shame.

You could have a 9 sec all motor LT1... and the LS1 boys and their gutted bolt on cars will be calling you out still.... you cannot win.

:|

Firebird67dude 08-22-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise (Post 628666)
You could have a 9 sec all motor LT1... and the LS1 boys and their gutted bolt on cars will be calling you out still.... you cannot win.

:|

True, I'll be full interior still. LEave the gutted cars to hondas.

sweetbmxrider 08-22-2009 06:31 PM

i spilled my guts. i'll admit that running the passenger side wires the stock way is a pita.

NJ346 08-22-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebird67dude (Post 628665)
Atleast LT1 are REAL 350 ci. not 346. MY LT1 has 190000 and runs 13s all day with only full exhaust.

Some LS1 people seem like the most arrogant people on earth. God bless the LS1. Put it to rest already its a dinosaur motor. Theres the LS2, LS6, hell theres an LS7 and a niner in there right? LS1 and dinos. update ur motors.

If i get this new jobie I'll have a N/A LT1 motor that will put most LS1s to shame.

*knock*knock* arrogant LS1 owner chiming in*

My car has 4ci less than urs, is stock internal, full weight, oh and 187K miles, and oh wait... has run plenty of 12.4's :wink:

sweetbmxrider 08-22-2009 06:37 PM

stock weight includes drag wheels and !front sway bar? :lol:

LTb1ow 08-22-2009 06:46 PM

Your car is full weight? LS1s came stock with slicks and skinnies?

Geez, guess GM caught on to the 5.0 craze... does your car have flowmasters?


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