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12secondv6 05-25-2006 05:15 PM

What does it run N/A?

That is what we can judge it by.

Proven times work for me.

project89 05-25-2006 07:15 PM

14.8@94 still some traction issues, also forgot that my car is around 300-350 pounds heavier then his so it is making a lil more power then he did @5 psi.edit and that was with 0 nitrous
Last time he ran his car he was into the mid 12,s,but it cost him a motor

it really dosent matter ill have baseline runs come this wensday im ognna head out to etown wensday and pay fior test and tune make the first pass @7psi and up the boost from there

12secondv6 05-25-2006 10:16 PM

Until you go quicker..... you sir are not a threat ;)

project89 05-25-2006 10:18 PM

21#'s of boost pwns yo

lol i become a threat on wensday night as long as the rear holds together that is. slicks + 10bolt w/4:56's dont live long lmao.im praying it will hold up to one night with the turbo

12secondv6 05-25-2006 10:19 PM

Pics and video!

I wanna see the turbo installed in the car!

project89 05-25-2006 10:21 PM

ill hav epics saturday and sunday.im starting the install on friday night.shoudl be completed sometime early sunday

12secondv6 05-26-2006 02:02 PM

Best of luck.

You make it sound so easy though.

I'm DEF not a newbie in the v6 world.

What specific mods do you have done?

project89 05-26-2006 02:17 PM

massivly posted and milled heads/w reworked chambers,ported intake base to plenum/true ram air kit/full ex system/headers/monster of a cam(3-7500 power band),msd /w 2 step,built trans with 3k converter/gears,and lots of computer tunning,not to mention the 100 shot,but everytime i tried to use it ive either smoked the tires,or broken something.lol first attempt i ran .5 slower then i did without it.second attempt i broke the cam,and just recently i snapped the timming chain.

as far as being easy,it pretty much is easy the hardest thiing i have to do this weekend is build the turbo header,and its actually pretty easy (log style),once thats done alls i have to do is bolt the turbo onto the header/along with the wastegate, then make all my charge pipes from turbo to intercooler-2 tb.run my oil feed and return lines,and pop in my new chip and im done.not really more then 1.5 days worth of work

12secondv6 05-26-2006 02:53 PM

Size of exhaust?
Spec's of cam?
Built trans? specifics?
3K converter.... effeciency? str? brand? Generic or custom made for your car?
Nitrous - wet, dry, brand?
Suspension?
Tires?

As for my easy comment..... You make it sound easy to run 12's in a v6.... your engine is MUCH smaller than mine.... 12's took a bit of work on my bird

GP99GT 05-26-2006 03:04 PM

also...notice you have all that done, and youre still only in mid 14's N/A...after tuning i should be high 14's N/A with FWD and >$800 spent

DieselKickYoAss4Sure 05-26-2006 05:36 PM

tim you have a turbo sitting around we can throw on craigs car we can def get his ca in the low 11especailly if he buy yhtat trans kit and a new clutch

Tru2Chevy 05-26-2006 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DieselKickYoAss4Sure
tim you have a turbo sitting around we can throw on craigs car we can def get his ca in the low 11especailly if he buy yhtat trans kit and a new clutch

I think the turbo Tim has is off of a DSM. Way to small to go drag racing on a 3.8. Craig will be back in the game this fall, and I think he'll do just fine.

[/hijack]

Dave, take pics of the install this weekend, and keep us updated. I'm anxious to see how this turns out. 60* FTW!

- Justin

project89 05-26-2006 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GP99GT
also...notice you have all that done, and youre still only in mid 14's N/A...after tuning i should be high 14's N/A with FWD and >$800 spent

umm i only have about 300 in the car now and 1,100 with the turbo setup
gota rember me and my uncle run/own a speed/racecar shop,so this cost me nothing really
dont forget a 2.8 v6 thirdgen with an auto is an 18.5 sec car stock

project89 05-26-2006 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12secondv6
Size of exhaust?
Spec's of cam?
Built trans? specifics?
3K converter.... effeciency? str? brand? Generic or custom made for your car?
Nitrous - wet, dry, brand?
Suspension?
Tires?

As for my easy comment..... You make it sound easy to run 12's in a v6.... your engine is MUCH smaller than mine.... 12's took a bit of work on my bird

3 inch flowmaster dual 2.5 tails
Cam Timing: TAPPET @.050
Lift: Opens Closes Max Lift Duration
Intake 17 BTDC 51 ABDC 107 248 °
Exhaust 66 BBDC 12 ATDC 117 258 °
Lift: Intake @Valve 500 .
Exhaust @Valve 520
Rocker Arm Ratio 1.5

248/258 @.050 500/520
tci streetfighter(kit) v6 to v8 specs
restalled stock
NOS direct port wet system
boxed lcas shortened tq arm poly everything drag springs/and 3 way adjustable shocks(switching to qa 1's)
255/45/zr16's al the way around & 26x9x15 hoosier slicks
http://2wai.ics-il.com/2.8.flowmaster.idle.wav

GP99GT 05-26-2006 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lethalrides2k3
umm i only have about 300 in the car now and 1,100 with the turbo setup
gota rember me and my uncle run/own a speed/racecar shop,so this cost me nothing really
dont forget a 2.8 v6 thirdgen with an auto is an 18.5 sec car stock

well my post wasnt really about the money spent...it was about the amount of work you had to do to get to slightly better than i am

project89 05-26-2006 06:49 PM

dont forrget my motor is how much older then urs/lacks the newer technology
what did ur car runs stock/dont forget ive seen over a 4sec increase

Savage_Messiah 05-26-2006 08:09 PM

its easier to go from an 18 to a 17 than a 14 to a 13...

project89 05-26-2006 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah
its easier to go from an 18 to a 17 than a 14 to a 13...

lol how about 18-14

12secondv6 05-27-2006 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lethalrides2k3
3 inch flowmaster dual 2.5 tails
Cam Timing: TAPPET @.050
Lift: Opens Closes Max Lift Duration
Intake 17 BTDC 51 ABDC 107 248 °
Exhaust 66 BBDC 12 ATDC 117 258 °
Lift: Intake @Valve 500 .
Exhaust @Valve 520
Rocker Arm Ratio 1.5

248/258 @.050 500/520
tci streetfighter(kit) v6 to v8 specs
restalled stock
NOS direct port wet system
boxed lcas shortened tq arm poly everything drag springs/and 3 way adjustable shocks(switching to qa 1's)
255/45/zr16's al the way around & 26x9x15 hoosier slicks
http://2wai.ics-il.com/2.8.flowmaster.idle.wav

Stock roller rocker ratio?
What about cat?
restalled stock converter??? I'm surprised they got it to 3,000 but its effeciency and str must be really poor.

I'm just not seeing an 11, 12 and maybe a 13 second car.

Turbo V6 Camaro 05-27-2006 12:13 PM

i have to agree with jame's

in anyone has been through a lesson of matching the stall to the turbo and gears, its me.....

if the turbo is that large you will not spool it at the line with a 3000 stall (~1500-1800 foot brake)

the 4.56's may help lanch and the back pessure from the turbo will choke it out some, but the motor load will be low cuasing slow spool again......

i could maybe see a low 14 high 13....

on the first time out with the turbo there will be bugs to get out...

good luck and post up some results and video

Tsar 05-27-2006 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GP99GT
well my post wasnt really about the money spent...it was about the amount of work you had to do to get to slightly better than i am

um...that's like saying my car is faster then your with no work done, and some ls1 car is faster then mine with also no work done. its kinda point less. most likely u also paid money for your car when you bought.

project89 05-27-2006 12:24 PM

no cat
stock ratio rockers (anything higher would result in pistion to valve contact
u guys are forgetting this has been doen on another v6 2.8 car and we alreayd know the times from that car
with a .63 ar on the hot side this turbo should sppol no later then 2,300 rpm and im droping the 4:56's for a set of 3:73's for now

Turbo V6 Camaro 05-27-2006 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lethalrides2k3
no cat
stock ratio rockers (anything higher would result in pistion to valve contact
u guys are forgetting this has been doen on another v6 2.8 car and we alreayd know the times from that car
with a .63 ar on the hot side this turbo should sppol no later then 2,300 rpm and im droping the 4:56's for a set of 3:73's for now

accualy i didn't know

the hot side ar is only 25% of it, whats the cold side ? whats the trim of the wheels?

project89 05-27-2006 12:30 PM

.63 hot .50 ar cold side stage 3 wheel 57 trim t3/t4 hybrid t04e

Turbo V6 Camaro 05-27-2006 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lethalrides2k3
.63 hot .50 ar cold side stage 3 wheel 57 trim t3/t4 hybrid t04e

umm that sounds like the one FFF had in the first kits i dont know about full boost by 2300 maybe 3000-3300

your motor is smaller but turbo will top out at ~15-17 PSI

you running the spray or turbo only?

spray out of hole could help alot


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