Originally Posted by jims69camaro (Post 628849)

creatine is found naturally in red meat.

i used ephedrine hydrochloride in combination with caffeine and aspirin. the ratio is 1:12:10, ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin. that's if you can find E HCI on the market. i used to buy it by the box at 7-11, since those bastards could give a ***** if you killed yourself. other, more compassionate people, probably wouldn't sell it (perhaps for fear of a lawsuit). it's not for the faint of heart - it's very strong stuff. staying hydrated is almost impossible when taking it, but if you don't try (2+ gallons of water per day) then you could end up a statistic instead of cutting weight.

as far as building muscle, there is no pill that will do that. this is why people abuse steroids, since it is really the only way to trick your body into making more muscle. the only tried and true method is: workout, eat, rest; repeat. nothing else will make muscle for you. sure, there are more things out there that claim to help, and you might even find anecdotal evidence to support that, but working the muscle is the only way to make it grow.