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V 07-14-2012 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 841770)
What about the fitting that goes in between the pan and drain plug?

Well being that its a gravity drain, I need for the oil to enter the motor at a level higher than the pans standing oil level. If I tried putting it in the pan through the drain plug opening or even the low oil/oil temp sensor holes, it may not drain properly and is known to cause big issues with turbo systems

Mike 07-14-2012 05:34 PM

Hmm ok. Cut and weld time. Anything to avoid letting the electrical system control it

V 07-14-2012 08:26 PM

I looked at the timing cover tonight. It's tight, no real room to put a fitting that I could find yet. The oil pan is a whole different set of issues to get to. In order to remove the Pan, the motor needs to come out or the engine cradle dropped a decent amount. This is not an fbody, so dropping the cradle isnt as simple. I doubt I could even get a drill in place the drill then tap a hole with the pan still on the motor.

Time for some more problem solving thinking....

Edit: looks like i'll be dropping the cradle. That shall take a whole day if not more, at the rate I work on the car lol.

also, perhaps I'll just buy another cts-v oil pan, have a bung welded on that and then drop the old one and right away put the new one in. That way it wont be apart for long, while Id forget how to put it back together. Then I can sell my old one and the new windage tray/pickup tube.

LTb1ow 07-15-2012 07:07 PM

No room for something like this?
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7029/dcp1867yf1.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6488/dcp1870pv9.jpg

V 07-17-2012 02:47 PM

That's how much room I have, not really enough. Due to the vette/cts-v balancer, its tight up close to the block. Best bet would be to tap the pan, either right at the bottom front , or the side. The front I could possibly drill/tap with the pan still on the engine, the side no, Id have to pull it. Im gonna check out a bunch of reviews for the turbo werx pump... might be the most feasible option.




http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...7-17153244.jpg

WildBillyT 07-17-2012 02:57 PM

Maybe get a bung, flared steel line, a tube nut, and install rubber hose downstream a little? Have it come straight out and then 90*.

This is a pic of a trans teardown and is filthy, but kind of what I mean:

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...-lines-010.jpg

V 07-17-2012 03:07 PM

Well... the other issue is that to get the drain line just TO that area on the timing cover, I'd have to run the drain line line down, under the supercharger, than back up 1-2 inches, so it totally negates the use of a gravity drain.

Its either into the pan, or a scavenge pump.

Edit: I think Ive decided to go with the turbowerx pump. its $250 or $400 depending on the model. For my application, even the 250 buck one will work great. I could not find any reports of obscure Turbowrex pump failures. All reviews come up as very positive again and again. People use them to replace the included pumps in STS turbo kits. I can also wire up and alarm to the pump line to alert me if anything should happen and the oil stops flowing. Then I'll just have the return go up into the driver side valve cover after putting a fitting into that.

heres the $400 one...
http://www.treadstoneperformance.com...+Scavenge+Pump



and heres a current pic too...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...7-17153358.jpg

V 07-18-2012 06:57 PM

Update: Today I pulled everything back off so I could apply blue thread lock on the main bolts and mount everything for the final time. I also reassembled the fuse box since it had been all apart since I had to sleeve the bottom of it. I also setup all the engine bay Intercooler piping. Air intake pipes are simple, I have them figured out all just gonna be one of the last things installed.

Tomorrow my custom radiator support will go into place and the Griffin aluminum radiator and Vintage Air condenser will get installed. I'll also then be able to mount the rear fan and the 8" fan up front. If I have time I'll hang the Intercooler and complete the rest of the piping.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...7-18172119.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...7-18180816.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...7-18191918.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...7-18192337.jpg

sweetbmxrider 07-18-2012 07:48 PM

You said you found someone to make you custom ac lines, right?

V 07-18-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 842342)
You said you found someone to make you custom ac lines, right?

not yet really, but i have been told of a few places. thats a concern for the future.

NJ Torque 07-18-2012 08:31 PM

I know buy-rite in South Plainfeild will make custom AC lines.

V 07-20-2012 02:35 PM

Got the radiator, condenser, fan and Intercooler mounted. IC will be turned around at final fitting to have the "TRE" logo on the backside.
I still need to install some aluminum angle stock as a brace across the front where the impact bumper was cut out.

Front bumper cover is just placed on and not secured anywhere yet.

I have to do some trimming at the bottom but overall it fits a lot better than I expected. The lower oem chrome mesh cts-v grille will not be used.

I have to also get the stock lower black air deflector/spoiler/lip that mounts under the bumper. That will hide the bottom of the IC while it'll still get air flow from underneath.


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...7-20145208.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...7-20145202.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...7-20150129.jpg

LS1ow 07-20-2012 02:36 PM

wow.

JW 07-20-2012 02:38 PM

How much money would you est. into this project?

JW :D

V 07-20-2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JW (Post 842550)
How much money would you est. into this project?

JW :D


At this point, I'd say I'm around 3500 into it.
I could make probably $500 back by selling off stuff I removed/don't need, but for now I'm gonna hold onto all stock parts considering that with a few hours work, everything could be put back to stock.
I figure I have another 1000-1500 I still need to spend.

To add to that.. a Magnacharger system would have cost over $6,000 start to finish. So I'm still under that amount.

JW 07-20-2012 03:14 PM

Cool to know Paul, maybe I will keep you in mind if I ever want to play around with custom stuff.

JW :D

sweetbmxrider 07-20-2012 03:57 PM

Looks awesome. What about painting the intercooler black? I know you like sneaky. Also, why can't you use the lower mesh? To me, that is the V look. I would try to make it work personally. Help keep that stock appearance.

Jersey Mike 07-20-2012 04:27 PM

Second the lower grille. What's left to purchase?

townsend 07-20-2012 04:55 PM

dude that is beautiful

maroman88 07-20-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 842567)
Looks awesome. What about painting the intercooler black? I know you like sneaky. Also, why can't you use the lower mesh? To me, that is the V look. I would try to make it work personally. Help keep that stock appearance.

third that

V 07-20-2012 04:59 PM

the lower grille frame is almost 2" thick and sets back deeper into the opening. The I/C is basically right up against the bumper cover up top and the two lower out tabs had to be removed for clearance. Yes id like to be able to run the grille too, but at this point I'm happy with the cover being on and only unseen areas needing to be cut.



Here is a pic of the material i had to cut...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...7-20174240.jpg



Blue couplers will be replaced with black silicone ones, I was hoping I could get away with those but they are too visible. Also, on the sides of the I/C, I will be fabricating ducting to put the outer airflow into the rad behind it.


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...7-20174501.jpg

V 07-20-2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jersey Mike (Post 842574)
What's left to purchase?

turbowerx oil pump and lines
injectors
racetronix fuel pump and hotwire kit
Tuning
a/c lines

SilverDropTop 07-20-2012 05:05 PM

Looks badass. Awesome work as usual.

sweetbmxrider 07-20-2012 07:01 PM

I know that on the front is an aux fan but I would be concerned with how far away it is from the radiator. Could just be the picture angle.

Blackbirdws6 07-20-2012 10:08 PM

Yea...this is looking pretty good. Looking forward to seeing this done. As mentioned, I would try to get a grill in there as well.


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