Look dude I've never even watched a Michael Moore movie, I am just stating the facts...Since you know everything about this war then why are we not in Iran the ones that funded the terrorist attacks!! Look I am all for protecting our country but damn atleast go to the right country!! LET ME SAY THIS AGAIN!!! SADDAM HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ATTACK ON AMERICA!!!!!! IRAN DID!!!! Although is was he scumbag to his people and deserved what he got definitely!!!! Also, it was your republicans that put Saddam in office by way of Pres. Reagan....So, I think your lost......... Jim

a small piece of history i will spell it out for you all the wars the USA has fought have been from moves designed to minimize our losses contrary to what you believe ( not taught in school today ) if you jump with both feet in a bees nest their is no escape -- the real reason we did not go into Iran first you need those behind you not to shoot at you BTW -- i can give examples for any war we fought but its not necessary --- Iran Syria and a host of other country's in the world -- who BTW want all of us dead their not interested in peace -- this war with them started in the crusades - what was that ???????? you might ask - Christians on one side and Islam on the other litterly 1000s of years ago -- the your god is not the right one war -- our country was founded on freedom of religious beliefs & being a freedom of expression, well today its not what those on the far left want in our country -- another topic -- Iran is and has been on the top of the list as Syria and Venezuela Cuba > hello Russia is selling them the gas BTW we as a country are humanitarian, and the selling of mustard gas ( first appeared in WW1 used on our troops BTW ) is and has not been done -- the far left stuff u read or hear from the communist professors is all bull DUDE they are full of it all of them X hippie over educated buffoons with an addenda not in our country's interest is what is teaching the younger kids today - and you will not see that until you are lined up against a wall just before being shot buy the same people you think did nothing to us -- its the religious right who believes in piece and Harmony and freedoms this country was founded on who ends up with a gun in his hand to defend your right to criticize them doing it -- your lost son and may never well lets hope some day the light will come on -- jz

So you're saying that our current conflict in the Middle east goes back to the Crusades? Okay, I'll buy that.

Christians attack the Muslims in Jereuselem because the Christians believe that Muslims shouldn't have control of the Christians' most holy place (with fabricated justification in what started out as a marketing/recruiting scheme for christianity - motivated by one priest's desire to gain wider notoriety). BTW, Muslims worship the same God as the Christians.

US attacks Iraq with fabricated justification in a marketing scheme for "patriotism" (mostly motivated by G-Dub's personal political agenda).

I can see a parallel there.

If you're interested, Jonathan Riley-Smith has written a number of recent books that look at the Crusades in the context of the current Middle East situation.

Huh? Presumably you mean freedom of religious beliefs, generally (including Muslim). Are you saying G-Dub is on the far left (see above)? News to me.

That sounds like freedom to me... NOT! If the "x hippie over educated baffoons" are lined up and shot for their beliefs, it kinda proves that they were right all along.

Oh, and speaking of education, have you ever heard of punctuation? It's easier to make your point when your reader can understand what you write.

Am I crazy, or does this conclusion make absolutely no sense in light of the rest of your argument? Maybe I didn't understand what you wrote (punctuation), but let me see if I have this straight:

-G-Dub inspired the Crusades of the modern era, motivated by the Muslim's god not being "the right one."

-Our country was founded on freedom of religious beliefs, and its the "left" that is out to restrain those beliefs (I thought you said it was G-Dub starting the Crusades to repress religion?)

-The "people you think did nothing for us" (presumably, the G-Dub administration/right wing/republicans), are going to line up all of the people who disagree with them and shoot them.

And Finally:
-the religious right (who is going to shoot the dissenters) believes in "peace and harmony," but only for those who have guns... or more particularly, only for those to whom they give guns. The "your lost sons" thing lost me (punctuation), but I assume you're trying to pull in the "our soldiers are dying for you" card - which doesn't really work when you consider who sent them to fight in the first place.

You are right about one thing, the light - at least for me - hasn't come on with respect to your argument. I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Mostly, you sound like a parrot that spent too much time with Bill O'Riley and Rush Limbaugh.

That's the real deal. NOBODY on here knows all the facts. End of story. Argue until you are blue in the face all you want. Just keep it civil.

Here's something to help you all out, it seems like it will get some good use in here:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ive496/mat.jpg

IF YOUR GOING TO POINT A FINGER AT LEAST SPELL CORRECTLY

YOU WROTE : Christians attack the Muslims in Jereuselem < ( Jerusalem )


YOU WROTE : (mostly motivated by G-Dub's personal political agenda).

AND INSULTING THE OFFICE AND THE SITTING PRESIDENT does not fly as well at least use his correct initials

YOU WROTE : If you're interested, Jonathan Riley-Smith has written a number of recent books that look at the Crusades in the context of the current Middle East situation.

I AM SURE HE HAS HIS INTERRUPTION JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE

YOU WROTE :Christians attack the Muslims in Jerusalem because the Christians believe that Muslims shouldn't have control of the Christians' most holy place

Why does that sound like what is going on in Israel -- since 1948 we have supported them and now we have the mess they started its the same one you mentioned above is it not --


---2--- you wrote -- Are you saying G-Dub is on the far left (see above)? News to me.

someone will have to explain how he got that ?????????? from what i wrote


----3-----you wrote --That sounds like freedom to me... NOT! If the "x hippie over educated buffoons" are lined up and shot for their beliefs, it kinda proves that they were right all along.

What i get from that is after they are in the city's and they are burning what then -- not unlike what happened in Rome - they all turned a blind eye and despises the army just like our own far left do --


---4 --- you wrote-- Oh, and speaking of education, have you ever heard of punctuation? It's easier to make your point when your reader can understand what you write.

your correct NO excuses


And the last part tweaked me, you know nothing of dead soldiers, or whats its like to be their and what they the soldiers believe and or the Christian right -- and the next time you see a far left liberal in uniform willing to give his like for his country it will be the first one -- leftest only tell you what they think you should be doing -- no action just words -- what bill o or rush have to say is their opinion only -- i could list dozens of Far left loons so what -- you don't understand i don't think so - you don't agree and don't have an equal argument so pick on the way i write SWEET -- jz

Johnjz I think what he meant by GWB being on the left was sarcastic, but meant to show that he is taking freedom away like you claim the far left is.

I could be wrong but I believe that is what mtnhopper is getting at.
(I am remaining neutral in this moment).

Right. I'm glad someone got it.

You must be joking. Do you really want to start this fight?

Go spell-check your last three posts and think about it.

Wooohoo Do I get a cookie? :lol:

This thread has runs it course. Bye bye before it deteriorates anymore....