Found in the article, between the transition from regenerative brakes to the conventional system it gives the driver the impression theres no brakes, but they are never without brakes, just feels like it in the pedal.

I think that anything relating to hydraulic, should stay hydraulic, if the electronics cut out on the car, wtf can you do?

same thing you do in a regular car, steer & stop!

Minus brakes and steering... right... :|

?? unless the assumption is we moved to steer & brake by wire.

Stick it into neutral and cruise to a stop.. Worked for me :shrug:

Thats what I thought the assumption was.

oh, ok. i didn't since we are not there yet.

Dunno if it's true or not but from what I read it feels like there's a 1/2 second delay when you step on the brake, and people don't like that. If you smash it there is no delay though.

So I guess they will be adjusting software so it "feels" right.

yeah idk what the ford issue is, but this article talks about electronic contols and what not, interesting stuff... for the prius its in between swtiching gas/electric motors, although if you smash it you should have brakes.

Based on what I see on the public roads, most prius drivers suck at driving as it is. many cannot seem to effectively use the turn signals. My guess is driver error!

Biased toyota hate. :-?

Fixed it for you :mrgreen:

No. Biased prius owner hate. Keep up. :lol:

That is odd, because the braking system doesnt change between gas and electric engine? The brakes are the same brakes...
In fact, regen brakes usually feel a lot more responsive because of the electric motors that are sucking up the energy. It feels almost too hard?
Thats what I felt in a few hybrid cars, from the Malibu, Fusion, Prius and even the Tahoe.

my ion has electric power steering. it cut out once going down the road and the car was steerable so i dont think thats a problem matt. i dont see why people just cant figure out the putting the car in neutral :?:

Yeah, dont get it.
Ive now had two cars with electric steering. I remember the 04 Malibu's were having a problem with racks going bad.

yeah ive had the column in the ion replaced because it happened a few times. havent had a problem since

Just saw my first "We are Toyota, we care about you - the consumer, happy Super Bowl Sunday" commercial.....

- Justin

Basically begging for forgiveness :lol:

Yup, I'm anticipating seeing a few dozen more over the next few hours.

- Justin

Yup, im sure it will be on every 10th commercial or so lol

But Hyundai is whoring the new Sonata like a bastard. Nice car, but its a lot bigger then the current model, and the chrome molding that goes from the headlight to the rear glass is a bit tacky IMO.
The powertrain and design are spot on. I'm glad to see someone move away from the V6. I think we will see that more and more now. BMW's even going to a turbo 4 to replace the base N/A 6cyl

survival of the fittest is what i say!

Ugh....they only invested in one commercial, and a bunch of airtime to keep replaying it over and over again.

- Justin