The AL has the advantage in the AL parks...they don't in the NL parks IMO.

I don't think Lidge was the key in the World Series, you have to look at the fact that they didn't hit **** for average and a majority of their home runs were solo shots...you need men on base. Howard struggled, Feliz just sucks at the plate. They never could get the entire line up in sync. You either had Rollins and Victorino getting on and not having your big bats driving them in or you had those 2 struggling and the big bats knocking them out of the park.

Credit the Yankees pitching for pitching good enough to win.

I'm not turning on anyone. ;)

its charlies fault hamels forgot how to pitch, its charlies fault howard didnt hit, its charlies fault the pen fell apart, its charlies fault lee cant throw 5 days in a row

You are as bad as Charlie, if you can't see when a pitcher or batter is not performing but you want to leave him, you're not going to win. You didn't watch the Phils all year so you have no idea when they are not performing. It's the World Series and the end of the season. If you can't do the job, you should be sitting. Hamels looked like crap the last 2 months, Lidge sucked all season, Johnny Damon slaps it to left field when he has 2 strikes on him, yet the left fielder is playing deep every time! Very poorly managed. Obviously he can't bat for Howard, but his stats actually match his season vs lefties so there is no surprise he struggled. And how many times were the Phils swinging away with runners on base and a 3-1 count? But I honestly didn't think they would repeat since it's almost impossible as an NL team. They had a great year despite their leadership! If they keep the core players, they will be even better next year. :nod:

sorry i watched at least 2 phils games a week.

if they had better options on the roster, they would be using them.

But Jeff, every player struggles...you go with what got you there. It's a catch 22. Charlie is already 4th in franchise history in wins and he's only been here for 5 years. It's easy to sit here as a fan and say coulda, shoulda woulda. Obviously there are some thing he probably would have done differently but he doesn't take a team to two WS's in a row by being lucky or being a **** manager.

Their pitching just hasn't been there and that's been all year. They got beat by a great team, it was a great series...lets just leave it at that.

always remember. this is a game where FAILING 2/3's of the time will get you into the hall of fame

is lee signed for more then just this season?
he would look good in pinstripes :mrgreen:

he has one more year on his current contract

speaking of pinstripes... the countdown to carl crawford starts tomorrow :)

Yeah Lee is under contract through next season. I wouldn't doubt that he signs with the Phillies unless Steinbrenner decides to wave $457 million, 3 young virgins and an ox at him. :rofl:

lee is into oxen? sweet

i still want roy halladay.

They do have better options and he didn't take them. If you want to give Charlie credit for winning last year, you have to give him the blame for losing it this year. Hamels was crap this year. Look at my post before the series started where I said they should put him the bullpen and start Happ. The Lidge thing was going to catch up to him at some point in time so it had to be the WS. Like I said, they had a pretty darn good season despite the obvious shortcomings this year. The pitching couldn't shut down the Yanks, and the Phils bench was worthless at the plate. Unless the Phils lose a key player, I still see them being the favorite for the NL next year as well.

lackey is a free agent

The Yankees win! TTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHEEE YANKEES WIN!

goodnight phillies, have a nice ride home

W0000000000000ttttttt!!!!!

the yankees win, thhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhe yankees win

Gay.

#27 for the yankeeeeees!! Congrats boys, you earned it!!

Fixed. :nod:

ell tee Swon Low

fixed for you :wink:

Isn't it past your bedtime old man?

:)