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jims69camaro 07-19-2007 05:44 PM

now, this would look good in your car!
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...1321201&rd=1,1

'nuff said.

Blacdout96 07-19-2007 08:58 PM

I would drop it in...If I only had money lol

bubba428 07-19-2007 08:59 PM

I would do it if I didn't have so much money and pride invested in the V6

ar0ck 07-19-2007 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428 (Post 365256)
I would do it if I didn't have so much money and pride invested in the V6

hahahahahaha:rofl:

deadtrend1 07-19-2007 09:20 PM

think they could come up with better pictures for a 2500.00 motor???

bubba428 07-19-2007 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ar0ck (Post 365268)
hahahahahaha:rofl:

well its become more of put up or disappear into a void and never speak again :rofl: O well I just want it to run at this point.

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Originally Posted by deadtrend1 (Post 365271)
think they could come up with better pictures for a 2500.00 motor???

yea WTF is up with that?? I would be fairly worried that they have no shots out of the truck

Mike 07-19-2007 09:44 PM

3.4 + 3.4 + 1.7 = 8.5

at least no one can say its 2.5 times your motor bubba

WildBillyT 07-19-2007 09:46 PM

Honestly.... I wouldn't do it.

I looked into it (I'm doing a 496 for my '69 when the time comes) and the aftermarket support for the Vortec 8.1 just isn't there apparently. Not worth the hassle.

bubba428 07-19-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 365275)
3.4 + 3.4 + 1.7 = 8.5

at least no one can say its 2.5 times your motor bubba

for being more than twice as big...340hp is kinda sad actually thats really sad

Mike 07-19-2007 10:25 PM

its a truck motor, wtf do you expect from it oh thats right the 450ftlbs of tq

WildBillyT 07-19-2007 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 365288)
its a truck motor, wtf do you expect from it oh thats right the 450ftlbs of tq

And 200,000 miles of use.

Towing.

bubba428 07-19-2007 10:32 PM

yea but slightly modified LS1s can do the same thing with MORE Hp

Mike 07-20-2007 04:55 AM

slightly? your talkin head and cam cars for the amount of tq.

bubba428 07-20-2007 08:46 AM

no...ls6 manifold, headers, basic bolt ons and a good tune.

jims69camaro 07-20-2007 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 365277)
Honestly.... I wouldn't do it.

I looked into it (I'm doing a 496 for my '69 when the time comes) and the aftermarket support for the Vortec 8.1 just isn't there apparently. Not worth the hassle.


when did you do your research? you can get 502 rect. port heads with 325cc intake for 1200, complete shipped to your door. you can't get that for a 350. all said and done, 650 lbs ft and 620 hp for $6500. that also can't be done with a 350. if i was ready, that motor would be mine. i only hope i can find one when i am ready.

WildBillyT 07-20-2007 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro (Post 365337)
when did you do your research? you can get 502 d-port heads with 320cfm intake for 1200, complete shipped to your door. you can't get that for a 350. all said and done, 650 lbs ft and 620 hp for $6500. that also can't be done with a 350. if i was ready, that motor would be mine. i only hope i can find one when i am ready.

Last year. There were five of them up for sale on ebay for $2500 each (in crates). What I was told is that a significant amount of Mark IV and Mark V stuff is not compatible (rotating assemblies, camshafts, etc) so even though there are some parts you can use it will be tough to put together a good combination.

chevyt454 07-20-2007 12:32 PM

looks shady

Mike 07-20-2007 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428 (Post 365335)
no...ls6 manifold, headers, basic bolt ons and a good tune.

hahahaha i have a FULL bolt on car and am no where near 450 ftlbs

Blacdout96 07-21-2007 12:20 AM

dont mind bubba, he really only knows about v6's, after that its guesstimation time lol.

jims69camaro 07-21-2007 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 365366)
Last year. There were five of them up for sale on ebay for $2500 each (in crates). What I was told is that a significant amount of Mark IV and Mark V stuff is not compatible (rotating assemblies, camshafts, etc) so even though there are some parts you can use it will be tough to put together a good combination.

look around again. if you can get good heads already worked to 325cc intake for 1200, and the whole kit and kaboodle for $6500, including the long block, i'd say start looking under the seat cushions for spare change. it can be done, just written about in one of the rags (chevy hi perf. july 2007). the cover says "small block versus big block, $6500 pump gas shootout, 422CI versus 505CI". they got to the 505.3 inches by boring .100 over a 454 and adding .25" stroke. Aerohead Racing supplied the heads for $1115, with 325cc intake ports (sorry, i knew it was somewhere around that).

parts list:
isky solid flat tappet cam, with 1.75:1 rockers lift is 0.638/0.654 with 259/268 degrees duration with lsa 106 degrees
ARP accessory bolt kit, balancer bolt and head bolts
Aerohead Racing new GM 14097088 cast iron heads 118cc combustion chamber, 325cc rectangular intake ports, stainless, swirl-polished valves 2.19/1.88, hardened seats, 3 angle valve job, 7/16th-inch studs with Manley guideplats and upgraded springs
Edelbrock 2902 Victor Jr 454-R intake
Fel-Pro gaskets
Isky lifters and pushrods
labor
total: $6360

now, this was just on the dyno, not in a real car, but they said they paid attention to the fact that they'd like to put it in a car, so it's not a dyno queen (like the small block in the same article). it maxed out at 594 lb ft and 622 hp with a compression ratio of 10.5:1 on 91 octane regular unleaded.

pretty sweet.

as far as incompatibility between the two motors, it's in the heads and it's a water jacket that needs to be shrouded by the deck and a specially made gasket.

no longer just the stuff of dreams. all it takes is a little patience for the aftermarket to pick up on the potential...

CJDZ24_Z28 07-21-2007 04:26 PM

The only thing impressive about that motor is the cubic inches. A LS1 or LS2 would be the way to go for almost anyone or in my situation 427 LS7 :hail:

camaro2you 07-21-2007 04:29 PM

Hah, same motor thats in the avalanche in my driveway, that truck hauls ***, and sucks up the gas.....

Tru2Chevy 07-22-2007 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 365255)
I would drop it in...If I only had money lol

I sure hope you'd be planning on aluminum heads/intake to go along with it, along with new front springs. That's an iron big block - VERY heavy piece, very bad mod for auto-x.

- Justin

Blacdout96 07-22-2007 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 365742)
I sure hope you'd be planning on aluminum heads/intake to go along with it, along with new front springs. That's an iron big block - VERY heavy piece, very bad mod for auto-x.

- Justin

Oh my word yes. in the end the wya I see it, might as well buy an LSX block, or go with the LS7 idea, cause in the end your gonna be blowing more money into this then Ron does with rears.

JerzLT1 07-25-2007 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 365446)
hahahaha i have a FULL bolt on car and am no where near 450 ftlbs

is brandon even makin 450 ftlbs? lol


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