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Ispooledurmom 07-02-2009 11:19 PM

10 Bolt
 
So everyone is telling me the 10 bolts in f bodys are very weak. I plan on dropping an ls2 in and i was wondering will the rear hold up if I put a better set of gears in and moser axles? Possibly looking at a detroit locker to.

Dont have the cash for a 9 inch so dont say it:-?

Formulalt1 07-02-2009 11:27 PM

Going fast costs money and you are gambling with a 7.625 ring gear no matter what you do to it. I have heard of people throwing every mod known to man at the 10 bolt and getting it to run 10's or there about but at the end of the day you still have a mightly large weak link. IMO, if you plan on adding serious mods it isn't the place to skimp on but to each there own. IMO your best bet is to save up and upgrade the rear (9 Inch, 12 bolt or whatever).

Ispooledurmom 07-02-2009 11:30 PM

These isnt a big price differnce between the 12 bolt and the 9 inch is there something better about one or the other?

Also will the stock rear be ok with the ls2 if i baby it until I have the money for the new rear?

Formulalt1 07-02-2009 11:34 PM

Stick or auto?.

Edit- NVM, Talk to Kasey/Savage messiah. He has a V6 auto 4th Gen and last I talked to him I think he broke 3 10 bolts?

Formulalt1 07-02-2009 11:42 PM

Also, yes there is a price difference. The 12 bolt is usually more expensive from what I have seen, the S60 looks like a good deal from the feedback I have got.

Ispooledurmom 07-02-2009 11:44 PM

Its an m6 and i plan on swapping out the trans for D&D's magnum t56...pretty much planning on overhauling the entire car in a year or two wanna turbo the motor also

Formulalt1 07-02-2009 11:50 PM

Sounds like a sweet project. Might as well wait and do it up right or see what you can make the ten bolt handle and not expect too much out of it. I have a upgraded rear ready to go into mine but I am going to try and break mine first, just want to see how easy it is...

NJ346 07-02-2009 11:52 PM

if it's an M6....then buy the rear first. Don't put an LS2 in the car first. It's like putting a cam in these cars....you should have the supporting mods done before you do it. I've broken the 10 bolt twice in the past 10 days...and I'm just a bolt-on ls1

Ispooledurmom 07-02-2009 11:55 PM

Its a roller so i kinda need the motor in there got a good deal on the ls2 so its going in. How hard is the s60 to put in?

JSPERFORMANCE 07-03-2009 12:11 AM

S60 os a direct bolt in.. The only thing that needs to be done is shortening the driveshaft a little. 12 bolt is an absolute bolt in.

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Ispooledurmom 07-03-2009 12:19 AM

Well i gotta shorten the driveshaft anyway with the magnum t56 so thats no big deal
In everyones honest opinion what should i get a 12 bolt 9 inch or s60

And thanks ill keep that in mind im gonna need all the help i can get i spend money like i got deep pockets!

sweetbmxrider 07-03-2009 07:14 AM

don't put a 12 bolt behind an m6

Ispooledurmom 07-03-2009 07:59 AM

And whys that?

JSPERFORMANCE 07-03-2009 08:05 AM

Yeah, why is that?

BonzoHansen 07-03-2009 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ispooledurmom (Post 610583)
Dont have the cash for a 9 inch so dont say it:-?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ispooledurmom (Post 610600)
...LS2......D&D's magnum t56...pretty much planning on overhauling the entire car....turbo...

Oh no, don't cry $$ with a shopping list like that! :p

Ispooledurmom 07-03-2009 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 610673)
Oh no, don't cry $$ with a shopping list like that! :p

I know I know I have big plans lol:twisted:

LTb1ow 07-03-2009 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE (Post 610672)
Yeah, why is that?

I think it is marginally weaker than a ford rear, but not sure if thats what he meant.

Always build your car from the back to the front, ground up. That being said, I have yet to break my rear end. Heads/cam car. I be nice to my ten bolt. :lol:

JSPERFORMANCE 07-03-2009 09:01 AM

While slightly weaker than the 9 inch or s60 the 12 bolt is more than capable of handeling the power output of 90% if the f-body population.. We have 12 bolts behind some pretty serious drivetrains and going well into the eight second range. There is no reason why the 12 bolt should be a problem. It is more a prefrence of GM, Ford, or Mopar styling..

alamantia 07-03-2009 10:59 AM

A wise investment would be a tourque arm bracket rather than using the tailshaft of the transmission. I believe UMI and BMR make them.

Ispooledurmom 07-03-2009 11:37 AM

Wouldnt panhard bars help the rear hold up to?

NJ Torque 07-03-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ispooledurmom (Post 610750)
Wouldnt panhard bars help the rear hold up to?

Panhard? no...

LCA's to prevent wheel hop, yes...

NastyEllEssWon 07-03-2009 04:11 PM

get a 9'' from what i hear 12 bolts are still kind of a stock design and still are prone to breaking. i wont speak about the 12 bolt ask cbr mike though, he's had his 2 years and i think he's already rebuilt it at least once...not sure if he HAD to though.




as for the 9''....i have one in my car...i like it...need some tires...but the rear holds up very well...its jsut heavy :nod:

sweetbmxrider 07-03-2009 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE (Post 610697)
While slightly weaker than the 9 inch or s60 the 12 bolt is more than capable of handeling the power output of 90% if the f-body population.. We have 12 bolts behind some pretty serious drivetrains and going well into the eight second range. There is no reason why the 12 bolt should be a problem. It is more a prefrence of GM, Ford, or Mopar styling..

what tranny is in front of said 12 bolt? doing 5500 dumps in a t56 with dr's isn't going to last long with a 12 bolt.

NJ346 07-03-2009 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE (Post 610672)
Yeah, why is that?

12 bolts weren't meant to have a torque arm on them.

The 9in has an okay posi.

The S60 is probably the strongest, but I believe it is the heaviest and has the most drivetrain loss out of all of them.

Ispooledurmom 07-03-2009 10:22 PM

Ok so hears what i got so far the 12 bolt is out the window cause this is gonna be my DD s60 is heavy so i guess im going with the good ol 9 inch.

So this is gonna be the setup LS2 - Magnum T56 - And a moser 9 inch with a 3.50 or 3.89 axle ratio havent decided yet.


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