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LS1ow 04-10-2019 11:21 AM

Rear swap question
 
As some may know, i picked up a rear for my car last fall.

The rear itself is out of a 3 channel car, so it is set up for a 3 channel system. My car is a 4 channel car. Now other than traction control and ABS, which my war wagon does not have, is there anything else i should worry about ?

I know the 4 channel has reluctor wheels at the axle ends and the 3 channel has a speed sensor at the pumpkin. Im hoping those are just for traction control nonsense and for reading vehicle speed, which i don't think they are.

Is there any other differences? I feel like there is only 1 brake line running to the front instead of 2, can someone verify

ThoR294 04-10-2019 12:31 PM

VSS is on transmission. dont think there are any other differences.

my car is 3 channel and i do have only 1 line running to rear. but why would that matter? your lines are already there no?

LTb1ow 04-10-2019 12:47 PM

The 4 channel will have two feed lines to it, whereas the 3 channel only had one.

So T the two lines, or delete one. IDK how you setup your prop valve

LS1ow 04-10-2019 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTb1ow (Post 951803)
The 4 channel will have two feed lines to it, whereas the 3 channel only had one.

So T the two lines, or delete one. IDK how you setup your prop valve

prop valve has single line coming out, the T right at the frame rail into the 2 lines.

Feel like running single line from prop, to a T, then from a T at the rear back into a single line is asking for trouble.

BonzoHansen 04-10-2019 02:10 PM

w/o ABS just run a single line from the prop valve back to a T at the rear.

sweetbmxrider 04-10-2019 04:53 PM

Just run a single line from prop valve to a single hose that bolts to the rear. The single hose will have a T integrated into it to feed the left and right hoses for the rear calipers.

You can get away with reusing one of your current metal lines if you feel like it/know a thing or two/not how you stand by your car/'Murica

LTb1ow 04-11-2019 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LS1ow (Post 951804)
prop valve has single line coming out, the T right at the frame rail into the 2 lines.

Feel like running single line from prop, to a T, then from a T at the rear back into a single line is asking for trouble.

Yes.

Just run one line as stated above. The rear should have a T that bolts to the housing.

Don't over think this brah.

LS1ow 04-11-2019 06:42 AM

Rear does have a T on it, but coming out of that T is one of these connections.

https://live.staticflickr.com/7842/4...e7304165_z.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/7882/4...070835aa_z.jpg

Normal?

LTb1ow 04-11-2019 07:06 AM

Ya there should be a bracket on the car side that it slides into and then is locked down for the hard line to attach to.

LS1ow 04-11-2019 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTb1ow (Post 951815)
Ya there should be a bracket on the car side that it slides into and then is locked down for the hard line to attach to.

Can i just run a braided line from valve directly to line on rear? Or are braided brake lines that long not a thing

BonzoHansen 04-11-2019 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LS1ow (Post 951817)
Can i just run a braided line from valve directly to line on rear? Or are braided brake lines that long not a thing

not a thing

sweetbmxrider 04-11-2019 04:32 PM

That hose should fit one of the factory mounts you currently have. I know they have different sized fittings on the hard lines, I can't recall if the hoses were different externally. One of your factory hard lines should fit that hose.

LS1ow 04-12-2019 08:29 AM

Smash sent me a pic yesterday that helped me visualize without going under the car.

Im gunna end up grabbing another set of the compression fittings and just replacing the T upfront to a straight threw to one line.

BonzoHansen 04-12-2019 09:49 AM

no compression fittings on brake lines

MDSheds_SS 04-12-2019 11:45 AM

Double flare that ****, or buy a shoot.

ThoR294 04-12-2019 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 951828)
no compression fittings on brake lines

:werddance:

yeah do not do that please lol

LS1ow 04-12-2019 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 951828)
no compression fittings on brake lines

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDSheds_SS (Post 951829)
Double flare that ****, or buy a shoot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThoR294 (Post 951830)
:werddance:

yeah do not do that please lol

wait were were you guys when all this happened.

https://oi1368.photobucket.com/album...ps3y8hf5jk.jpg

ThoR294 04-12-2019 03:49 PM

clearly we didn't see that lol

sweetbmxrider 04-12-2019 04:15 PM

https://i.imgflip.com/2yg9gv.jpg

LTb1ow 04-12-2019 04:27 PM

Just means he is gonna have a chute to slow him down.

'merica mobile doesn't need no stinkin brakes

LS1ow 04-12-2019 05:02 PM

Sooooo brake lines should be placed on order?

LTb1ow 04-12-2019 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LS1ow (Post 951836)
Sooooo brake lines should be placed on order?

Just run new lines. Buy a roll and get to work

LS1ow 04-12-2019 07:02 PM

Sigh.

IROCZman15 04-12-2019 07:10 PM

yea man, no way you should be using compression fittings on brake lines. flares only ... bubble flare or double inverted flares. I like the ni-cop nickle-copper line. easy to flare. easy to bend. I just ran nice ni-cop lines on the new 12 bolt rear. I will be doing the remainder of the car with the nickle copper next year from the master to the adjustable wilwood prop-valve that is under the rear drivers side seat.

LS1ow 04-12-2019 07:25 PM

I’ll feel like I’d rather sell the car than flare brake lines


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