First VW, now FCA....
 

http://www.investors.com/news/epa-to...g-stock-dives/

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I saw that. I bet they crucify worse than VW

They're saying the software may not be for emissions cheating, but since it wasn't disclosed, the penalties are just as bad.

I'm assuming if they didn't disclose the software, it's there for cheating emissions anyway.

Not as many cars/trucks as VW though

Upwards of 4.5 billion?
Should there be EPA changes in 2017, does FCA luck out or are they going to be VW-v2.0 regardless?

Keep in mind a lot of VW's total comes from payouts to owners.

The fix for the TDi cars is in final stages. one of Audis Tech centers in actually in Allendale, so they came to my dealer and grabbed 1 of each car/truck effected to install and real world test the fix on

With that just for the 3.0, or also the 2.0?

3.0 torque MONSTA

My sister had a 2013 Cayenne with the diesel. It was a monster but still got 30mpg. I pushed her to get the diesel when she was looking and ended up loving that car.

She crashed it last year and couldn't get a replacement. She ended up with a 2016 V6 and isn't as happy with it. She can barely break 20mpg with it and its no where near as quick.