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BigAls87Z28 06-08-2006 11:52 PM

Got that Som'bitch!!
 
US air strike kills al Qaeda's Zarqawi
06/08/06 10:50 By Mariam Karouny - Source:http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/sto...tm&floc=NW_1-T

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. warplanes killed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al Qaeda leader in Iraq blamed for bombings, beheadings and assassinations, and President George W. Bush said on Thursday that American forces had "delivered justice."


In one of the most significant developments in Iraq since the capture of Saddam Hussein in 2003, Jordanian Zarqawi was killed in a bombing raid on Wednesday in a U-S.-Iraqi operation helped by tip-offs from Iraqis and Jordanian intelligence.

Vowing to fight on, al Qaeda in Iraq confirmed the death of Zarqawi, who beheaded several hostages himself and who appeared in a recent video firing a machine gun in the desert.

U.S. forces displayed at a news conference a picture of the corpse of the bearded Zarqawi with facial abrasions and his eyes closed. The air strike was carried out by two F-16 aircraft with two 500-pound (227 kg) bombs hitting the Zarqawi "safe house."

Zarqawi, in his late 30s and whom Osama bin Laden called the prince of al Qaeda in Iraq, had symbolized the radical Islamic insurgency against U.S. occupation, and British Prime Minister Tony Blair said he now expected insurgents to seek revenge.

"There will be fierce attempts ... with the death of Zarqawi to fight back," Blair said, adding his death would not end the killing in Iraq but that it was "significant."

Bush said the death of Zarqawi, who had a $25 million bounty on his head, was "a severe blow to al Qaeda," a victory in the war on terrorism, "and it is an opportunity for Iraq's new government to turn the tide in this struggle."




Good work, and I hope that boosts moral for the troops over there. Lets get them home asap.

Tsar 06-08-2006 11:55 PM

yea we've heard

BigAls87Z28 06-08-2006 11:58 PM

I know, ive seen it all day ont he news, but I didnt see it posted on here. Thought it was odd.
Anyway, get them home, let the animals destroy themselves.

unstable bob gable 06-09-2006 12:01 AM

BOOM! Dead! Cooooooooooooooool!

qwikz28 06-09-2006 12:23 AM

american theory: use violence to destroy violence. :rollseye:

Ghandi FTW

Brando56894 06-09-2006 12:44 AM

:werd:

fighting for peace is like ****ing for virginity

12secondv6 06-09-2006 08:09 AM

Bye bye dead durka durka

Tsar 06-09-2006 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Brando56894
:werd:

fighting for peace is like ****ing for virginity

i was thinking about posting that...

bad64chevelle 06-09-2006 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28
american theory: use violence to destroy violence. :rollseye:

Ghandi FTW

But what else are we gonna do? Let those MF*ckers keep doing it, and we just sit there? Let our people be killed and say "Oh its okay peace will come" ***** that. Blow these bastarts up, sure its not gonna help all that much since these f*cks are already within our boarders, but what else is there really to do? I say keep those bombs rollin!

BTW Nice sig Jake...

Tsar 06-09-2006 08:25 AM

ohh i just noticed the sign, very nice indeed!

qwikz28 06-09-2006 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bad64chevelle
But what else are we gonna do? Let those MF*ckers keep doing it, and we just sit there? Let our people be killed and say "Oh its okay peace will come" ***** that. Blow these bastarts up, sure its not gonna help all that much since these f*cks are already within our boarders, but what else is there really to do? I say keep those bombs rollin!

BTW Nice sig Jake...

non-violent protest? education? and probably the biggest factor, STOP FUNDING THEM?

these people are taught to be this way by religion radicals. if we stop funding them then they will have no way to operate and will have no incentive to join the radical groups.

Tsar 06-09-2006 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28
non-violent protest? education? and probably the biggest factor, STOP FUNDING THEM?

these people are taught to be this way by religion radicals. if we stop funding them then they will have no way to operate and will have no incentive to join the radical groups.

what is there to educate us about? and stupid protest dont work, IMO. Cutting funds seems like a good idea but that just wont happen, ever. If someone in this world wants moneybad enough they will get it, no if or buts about it. They can always go to drug trafficing, gun trade, human trade and such things.

Ian 06-09-2006 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsar
what is there to educate us about? and stupid protest dont work, IMO. Cutting funds seems like a good idea but that just wont happen, ever. If someone in this world wants moneybad enough they will get it, no if or buts about it. They can always go to drug trafficing, gun trade, human trade and such things.

if you are talking about the united states, we traffic the most guns out of anyone in the world.

The war on terror cant be won by military force. terrorists are small groups of people who are free to move from country to country. bombing innocent civilians is no better than what they did to us. I do agree that terrorists should be dealt with, but NOT the way we're handling it now. It shouldn't be handled by the military, It should be handled by the CIA. The reason we are usng the military is so we can invade Iraq. Remember "mission accomplished"? yeah, not quite.

Tsar 06-09-2006 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian
if you are talking about the united states, we traffic the most guns out of anyone in the world.

no i was not talking about the US. i was talking about illegal gun trafficing, its number 2 business after illegal drug trade out there. US does not sell guns to regular joes on the streets "bad" people howerver do that. For example its illegal (or it least it was when i was there) to have any form of Ak-47 in my country except if you are a law enforcement or ex-military. well i can find you one for a few hundred bucks in less then an hour, so can probably any person who knows their way around the city... **** ive shot them before, and they're illegal to posses :laugh:

shane27 06-09-2006 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28
american theory: use violence to destroy violence. :rollseye:

Ghandi FTW

your right! why the hell are we using violence to destroy dangerous terrorists?! i mean maybe if we ask them nicely to stop what their doing they will! killing a few people along with one of the most dangerous al queda members is defintily worse then leaving him alive to kill thousnads more...what the hell are we thinking!

oh btw did anyone here about how this guy stoped a bus full of children and slaughtered all of them?


andddd if we shouldnt use violence to destroy violence, what should we do?

ppl seem to be quick about saying what we SHOULD'NT be doing but unfortunally they dont have a realistic solution of what we SHOULD do...try to educate these people, i dare you

Tsar 06-09-2006 01:27 PM

how should i put this nicely so no one gets their panties twisted up....Killing an Al-Queda member no matter how important he is wont destroy the whole organization, if you think that then im sorry you are retarded. You kill one, another one takes his place. whooppeedoo you killed one, ok now kill the other 15,999 or so members. probably more tho.

shane27 06-09-2006 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar
how should i put this nicely so no one gets their panties twisted up....Killing an Al-Queda member no matter how important he is wont destroy the whole organization, if you think that then im sorry you are retarded. You kill one, another one takes his place. whooppeedoo you killed one, ok now kill the other 15,999 or so members. probably more tho.

so we shouldnt of tried to kill hitler cuz someone else might of just taken his place

Tsar 06-09-2006 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shane27
so we shouldnt of tried to kill hitler cuz someone else might of just taken his place

um..who killed hitler? enlighten me. his generals/advisors woulda taken over and still done the same. you are also comparing a country and a terrorist network. those two are completely different. If Bin Laden or one of his buddies comes over and slaughters Bush guess what the war in Iraq and "terrorism" will still go on.

shane27 06-09-2006 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar
um..who killed hitler? enlighten me. his generals/advisors woulda taken over and still done the same. you are also comparing a country and a terrorist network. those two are completely different. If Bin Laden or one of his buddies comes over and slaughters Bush guess what the war in Iraq and "terrorism" will still go on.

he killed himself becasue he didnt want to be taken alive by us if i remember correctly. and his generals/advisors didnt take over and do the same. when i talk about hitler im not just talking about germany, im talking about those people..the nazis. both the nazis and al queda both kill/killed people and would of/will keep doing it if nothing happened/ happens.

this is like saying we shoudnt punish murderers, becasue people will just keep killing anyway... well no **** but if we dont teach the ones we can catch a lesson it will happen even more then it already does.

bad64chevelle 06-09-2006 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar
no i was not talking about the US. i was talking about illegal gun trafficing, its number 2 business after illegal drug trade out there. US does not sell guns to regular joes on the streets "bad" people howerver do that. For example its illegal (or it least it was when i was there) to have any form of Ak-47 in my country except if you are a law enforcement or ex-military. well i can find you one for a few hundred bucks in less then an hour, so can probably any person who knows their way around the city... **** ive shot them before, and they're illegal to posses :laugh:

:werd: AKs are fun to fire though...

Tsar 06-09-2006 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shane27
he killed himself becasue he didnt want to be taken alive by us if i remember correctly. and his generals/advisors didnt take over and do the same. when i talk about hitler im not just talking about germany, im talking about those people..the nazis. both the nazis and al queda both kill/killed people and would of/will keep doing it if nothing happened/ happens.

this is like saying we shoudnt punish murderers, becasue people will just keep killing anyway... well no **** but if we dont teach the ones we can catch a lesson it will happen even more then it already does.

Thats right he killed himself and poisoned his family when he knew it was over. You know why his generals didnt take over? Cuz there was nohing left of his army, Russians slaughtered 70% of it on the eastern front and were in berlin now fighting for every house. There was no hope for Hitlers "dream" to continue so he just ended it right there.

Um...Nazi were a clear target son, you knew where they were so you can pound the **** outta them. Al-queda is a newtowk they dont rely on one person for command. They are individaul cells who operate by themselves majority of the time with a goal. they dont need high command.

Murders are individuals and have nothing to do with this disscussion, why dont u stray a little bit more off topic, and talk about lunar gravity and how long exposure and then return on earth might kill you...wtf?

shane27 06-09-2006 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar
Thats right he killed himself and poisoned his family when he knew it was over. You know why his generals didnt take over? Cuz there was nohing left of his army, Russians slaughtered 70% of it on the eastern front and were in berlin now fighting for every house. There was no hope for Hitlers "dream" to continue so he just ended it right there.

Um...Nazi were a clear target son, you knew where they were so you can pound the **** outta them. Al-queda is a newtowk they dont rely on one person for command. They are individaul cells who operate by themselves majority of the time with a goal. they dont need high command.

Murders are individuals and have nothing to do with this disscussion, why dont u stray a little bit more off topic, and talk about lunar gravity and how long exposure and then return on earth might kill you...wtf?

Murders accually has every single thing to do with the topic (its called an analogy, son) . so now your saying we dont have a clear target so we shouldnt be over there? times change and so do wars. just becasue they dont have a target on their faces dosent mean we shouldnt be going after them.
Were one of the only countries that have the balls to defend ourselves, so in this case were the russians trying to do the work and take these ****ers out. back then we werent as powerful as we were now, so now we can do all the necessary work

Tsar 06-09-2006 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shane27
Murders accually has every single thing to do with the topic (its called an analogy, son) . so now your saying we dont have a clear target so we shouldnt be over there? times change and so do wars. just becasue they dont have a target on their faces dosent mean we should be going after them.
Were one of the only countries that have the balls to defend ourselves, so in this case were the russians trying to do the work and take these ****ers out. back then we werent as powerful as we were now, so now we can do all the necessary work

um..if you think nazis and al-queda are the same then we're done here.... you can kill as many terrorists as you'd like it will not chage a thing. with every person you kill another one hates you and guess what they'll pick up the arms. this is like the war on drugs and when you thought that killing pablo escobar would solve the cocaine problem. um..i think there's more cocaine in US now...

shane27 06-09-2006 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar
um..if you think nazis and al-queda are the same then we're done here.... you can kill as many terrorists as you'd like it will not chage a thing. with every person you kill another one hates you and guess what they'll pick up the arms. this is like the war on drugs and when you thought that killing pablo escobar would solve the cocaine problem. um..i think there's more cocaine in US now...

not the same but similar, so i guess were done here.

NJSPEEDER 06-09-2006 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28
non-violent protest? education? and probably the biggest factor, STOP FUNDING THEM?

these people are taught to be this way by religion radicals. if we stop funding them then they will have no way to operate and will have no incentive to join the radical groups.

how do you intend to educate if you cut funding? the only reason some of these countries have any schools at all is because of international aid.

i agree that war is a horrible way to solve anything. but there comes a point when you have to look out for your own good and the good of those you care for. in this circumstance we are dealing with people who place so little value on life that they are willing to blow themselves up to take us out.
if someone places that low a value on their own life, you are left with no reasonable way to stop them from taking yours without ending theirs.


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