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grandkodiak 06-10-2006 11:27 AM

Dyno tune in central jersey?
 
By the end of the summer my le2 heads/cam, headers and a bunch of other small mods will be in place, so that calls for a tune! I have a 1996 so tuning is a major pain in the ass... other then lt1 edit which costs a fortune and I would have no idea what i was doing (let alone not wanting to risk my car) i've decided on a dyno tune. problem is, i cant find ANYONE willing to do it! its my only car, so taking out the comp to be mail order tuned is not an option, i need it done in a day or two max, and it cant be to far away, as i'll have to be driving the car there as it is with everythign installed on stock tuning.

anyone know of anyplace around here?!

foff667 06-10-2006 12:23 PM

pcm4less in PA

grandkodiak 06-10-2006 04:07 PM

i'm on the shore, thats awefully far for a car with 4.10's and no tune to travel... anything in monmouth county?

ryanfx 06-11-2006 06:14 AM

mailorder tunes usually allow you to put a security deposit on a tune, so they will send you their tuned PCM first, then you send your stocker back and they refund it less 10 bucks.

grandkodiak 06-11-2006 04:39 PM

oh, didnt know... but how good do mail order tunes compare to a dyno tune? i dont have (and really cant) get the specs for the cam, so...

Tru2Chevy 06-12-2006 09:49 AM

If the shop won't give you the specs of the cam they are selling to you, or installing in your car, I would go elsewhere. It's one thing for a shop to ask you not to tell others what the specs are on your custom cam, but it's another if they won't even tell you....

- Justin

grandkodiak 06-12-2006 12:44 PM

well its from llyode elliot, but he doesnt post it on his site and his emails only mention things in oblique reference, like " that should be fine with a cam around 112lsa" etc.

Tru2Chevy 06-12-2006 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by grandkodiak
well its from llyode elliot, but he doesnt post it on his site and his emails only mention things in oblique reference, like " that should be fine with a cam around 112lsa" etc.

Well I would make sure that you get the exact specs from him when you purchase the cam. He's reputable enough that I'm sure he'll give you the specs and tell you not to share them with anyone.

- Justin

Pampered-Z 06-12-2006 04:00 PM

Since you have time you can E-mail PCMforless and tell them your package. Brian probably already has files for LE2 package or at least something close that you can use.

Squirrel 06-14-2006 07:25 PM

yeah, a mailorder tune will put you in the ballpark then the dyno guys can focus in and perfect it

grandkodiak 06-14-2006 10:07 PM

alright that sounds like a good route to go until i can find a dyno, but that brings me back to the original question... are there any in jersey?!

Squirrel 06-14-2006 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by grandkodiak
alright that sounds like a good route to go until i can find a dyno, but that brings me back to the original question... are there any in jersey?!

TTP might do it, im not sure if they work on god's older brother or not

Silent Z 06-16-2006 09:54 PM

One of my buddies takes his LS1 Camaro to Cartek. He says they are great. They mainly do LS1's but they said they also do LT1's. They quoted me around $500.00 to dyno my car. I might do it at the end of the summer. Their address is

63 South Ave.
Garwood, NJ 07027
(908) 317-4497

I hope this helps!

Squirrel 06-17-2006 09:05 PM

::waits for Bill's entrance::

foff667 06-18-2006 08:40 AM

:barf:CARTEK

sorry just not worth the $550+tax...I had soooo many issues with their tune on my 98 Z thats why I ended up tuning on my own, so at Least I have them to thank for that. In all honesty I think most of the dyno shops around here rape people in price most throw you on a dyno for an hour(bolt on cars) or 3 hours(heads/cam cars) get a few wot runs and think they are done when in fact most just hack up your tune so bad if there are ANY problems your better off going back to stock and starting over. I still say save your money, get a mail tune which will get you "close" and keep the other $400 in your pocket or buy yourself a tuning pkg to tweak whats needed at a later time.

grandkodiak 06-18-2006 09:34 AM

I'd love to, I was going to buy LT1Edit but I know so very little about tuning and there is next to nothing on thier website about the fine details. I'd also be too afraid to overlook something and have the motor blow up on me for something stupid. I see that there are a few people out there that have made custom files for LT1Edit out there, but I dont think those would be any better then a mail order? Plus I'd still need dyno time to really run it no? I cant imagine flying up and down a street with a laptop at hand going back and fourth with it...

Silent Z 06-18-2006 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foff667
:barf:CARTEK

sorry just not worth the $550+tax...I had soooo many issues with their tune on my 98 Z thats why I ended up tuning on my own, so at Least I have them to thank for that. In all honesty I think most of the dyno shops around here rape people in price most throw you on a dyno for an hour(bolt on cars) or 3 hours(heads/cam cars) get a few wot runs and think they are done when in fact most just hack up your tune so bad if there are ANY problems your better off going back to stock and starting over. I still say save your money, get a mail tune which will get you "close" and keep the other $400 in your pocket or buy yourself a tuning pkg to tweak whats needed at a later time.

Thanks for the heads up! This guy at work swears by them. But he doesn't know sh@t about cars. Do you tune LT1's if so how much?

foff667 06-18-2006 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Z
Thanks for the heads up! This guy at work swears by them. But he doesn't know sh@t about cars. Do you tune LT1's if so how much?

I was gonna do late model 96-97's but once I actually had one to tune I realized I wasnt going to be able to put out a service as good as I could for ls1/v6's because the software I use to scan only scanned generic parameters on LT1's, not to mention I wouldnt be able to integrate my wideband into any software that actually could scan them with enhanced PID's, also the fueling code is far different then anything I'd seen or want to see...it was just odd overall. And switching back & forth between cables wouldve just made a mess out of things so I sold my LT1 tuning hardware, made a profit off the sale & moved on.

foff667 06-18-2006 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by grandkodiak
I'd love to, I was going to buy LT1Edit but I know so very little about tuning and there is next to nothing on thier website about the fine details. I'd also be too afraid to overlook something and have the motor blow up on me for something stupid. I see that there are a few people out there that have made custom files for LT1Edit out there, but I dont think those would be any better then a mail order? Plus I'd still need dyno time to really run it no? I cant imagine flying up and down a street with a laptop at hand going back and fourth with it...

another thing you could do is save a copy of your stock file, then get a mail order tune...you'll be able to do a compare of the differences between the two to see what the mail tuner did & tune slowly off of that.

grandkodiak 06-18-2006 12:49 PM

true... ug why did i have to pick the one year that is the single most complicated to work with on EVERY project?!

foff667 06-18-2006 01:18 PM

that I have no answer for :lol: but yeah it is like the redheaded stepchild of tuning.

Squirrel 06-19-2006 01:19 AM

speed density FTW :w00t:

Savage_Messiah 06-19-2006 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by grandkodiak
Plus I'd still need dyno time to really run it no? I cant imagine flying up and down a street with a laptop at hand going back and fourth with it...

Street > dyno, bigtime. (Track is better than both but street is better than dyno)

Tru2Chevy 06-19-2006 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah
Street > dyno, bigtime. (Track is better than both but street is better than dyno)

:stupid:

Dyno tuning is good if all you care about it peak numbers. If you want good driveability and some power under the curve, street and track tuning is the best.

- Justin

grandkodiak 06-19-2006 10:23 PM

I just don't want my car to blow up.


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