NJ Guys, good shop for header install?
 

Inquiring about a pacesetter LT install...Contacted ttp and he said he no longer installs pacesetters because they take to long because of fitment issues ,then I got an $1100.00 price from that new shop in Seaside NJ(which is insane) so im batting 1000 over here so far .Any help would be appreciated.

Check out JS Performance. He's just over the river in PA right out 195.

Yeah Matt has had too many customers come to him with pacesetters that apparently fit like crap.

Personally I would say buy yourself some tools, a jack & some jackstands and do what I did http://web.ics.purdue.edu/%7Ekanwisc...8Camaropg4.htm instead of spending an arm & a leg having someone else do a VERY easy bolt on for you.

Found a guy in Atco that gave me a 400-450 at most quote , now thats what I was looking for. I have zero tools, no patience, and live in an apt. so the 400 bucks is a bargain lol

Give Josh@JS a call. He'll take care of you.

Sponcer here correct? What will he charge because I got a price of 400-450(maybe less) from some guy that works for QTP out in Atco.

You'll have to call him, talk to him.

QTP has a place in Atco?

Yes, Josh is a sponsor and he's got very reasonable labor rates. Send him a PM and he'll get back to you ASAP, or just give him a call.

- Justin

the 'fitment issue' of pacesetters is bullshyt. i had them installed on my TA.....fit PERFECTLY, no issues, no nothing. TTP wont do it because hes a kooks dealer, and only wants to sell/install kooks. for the price of JUST the kooks headers, you can get pacesetters, catted Y, shipping, AND installation done.

not that youre anywhere near it, but dont go to Stage 1 on rt. 23. i thought he was a good place......he screwed up my exhaust something terrible. forgot a clamp (exhaust leak)......HORENDOUS welds (exhaust leaks).....put the bung for the right rear O2 sensor too far back, so now its stretched and throws an errant code now and then.....and hung everything so low, i cant get out of my garage, let alone driveway or god forbid hit a speedbump, without scraping the hell out of something.

I know there a Kooks dealer and I was thinking the same thing, but i was over at LS1tech.com and everyone from jersey over there swings from their nuts so i didnt want to start anything up, plus their a sponsor...After I asked him if he could reccomend any other less expensive headers then kooks and he said "honestly no" I started to suspect the same thing your saying and would rather not give them the business anyway whether my suspicion was true or not. Your right I can get the texas-speed header/ypipe package and install for right around the same price as the headers...not including y pipe lol...These cars have been around to long to all of a sudden start saying "kooks" are the only headers that fit right, alot of people might like them but from this experience(which is just my opinion) they'll never see any of my business.

for the price TTP quoted me on JUST kooks headers alone, i bought and shipped my pacesetters, TSP catted Y, two O2 ext., AND had it installed at another shop, stage 1 (which as i said i am VERY displeased with their work). maybe there was $100-$300 differance, but still....thats a huge diff. when talking about one part, and 3 parts plus labor.

matt is there to make money.....fine, thats america. but you shouldnt be lieing/bashing other products just to swing business to your shop. from what ive seen there, i really dont think he has to worry about getting few more header installs done just to get by. it looks like hes doing fine for himself moneywise, but hey, never know.

If you really want, we could get some guys together and install them at my house. You have to pay for pizza, soda and beer. But it really depends on your time frame and if you have all the parts to get your car back up and running in a decent time frame. Give Josh a call at JS first then post up if you're patient and willing to let a bunch of central Jersey hacks attack your car! :lol: I've done a bunch of stuff myself on my own cars so extra hands like your own can only help things go faster. What year car, emission's headers or not, do you have O2 sims or O2 extension's, cats or no cats with the y-pipe and what beer do you prefer?:?:

I might take you up on that offer, the only thing i ever installed myself was a cai on my 96 LT1 lol but I wouldnt mind getting my hands dirty and learn a bit in the process...beer and pizza isnt a problem :) . Havent picked the car up yet but once I do i plan on being an active member here. Did you make a pic post on LS1tech,if it was that black LS1 TA w/ the black bullets is bad!. 98/99 6spd (unless my sister decides to sell me here black 00ss 6spd) Pacesetter LTs, Catted Y, emmsions friendly... I drink about just any beer but Coors Light and Guiness lol. I work M-F but have plently of time built up so i can take off whenever I need to. Might just wait til around spring time frame, dunno yet, Yea I just got an email back from Josh and he gave me a killer price for the install but i wouldnt mind helping out out my own install and meeting some fbody buds in the process.

If Josh or anyone else on here can't give you a hand let me know and I can do them for you.....PM me to discuss pricing.

Im so glad that everyone hear took words and put them in my mouth. I sell Kooks, yes I do and yes I want to push that product of course. HOWEVER, if you properly read my ls1tech posts I said I will install anything that does not have repeated fitment issues. i.e. kooks, qtps, grots, mac mid lengths, hookers, etc.

Some pacesetters fit fine, others do not. They are inconsistent so I do not want to waste your money if it takes us 8-10 hours to put them on. My goal is to provide the customer with the best product, best fitment, not to make a killing off of a "small" project i.e. headers. I will not modify floorboards or any structural part of the car for proper fitment as some of the ebay brand, etc. headers need.

And yes, they swing on my nuts. Why? I have the reputation read further...

Also when you want to take words out of my mouth follow these rules:

Open your eyes, read clearly, process, then speak!

Wow.

Tommy is a friend of mine, yes he works for QTP and is a good guy that will do a good job and do it right he is also great at LS tuning ...

Tell him Doug said Hi lol
even though you will have to wait a week because he is out in Las Vegas for Sema

JSPERFORMANCE for the win for me...Lowest install $ and very helpful. Plus ive heard nothing but great things about his work. Yes Tommy was also more then helpful, fast and insightful replies

Matt if that was directed to me I never bashed you in any of my posts, all I put out there was what I got back in my replys. I clearly stated numerous times that it was my opinion..You weren't a sponsor here at the time so no harm no foul. Im educated so i don't need communication lesson nor does anyone else here i think but thx. BTW I might have went a different path w/ my reply.

Monmouth: That reply was not meant for you by any means. It was for the other knuckle heads in this thread that are putting words in my mouth. I never said Pacesetters were junk, they actually make good power and are a nice budget combination. I don't install them because I've had them slip right in and fit perfect and other times its like pulling teeth to put them in. My customers expect a full quote from me and I don't like adding extra money to the bill in any situation. I can't give anyone a firm quote on the pacesetters, so to alleviate any problems I'd rather pass on the work.

i.e. knuckle head # 1 - Echomirage

I don't lie or bash products. As my customers know, I don't sugar coat anything I tell them if a product is good or not in my opinion. In my opinion Pacesetters make good power, but the fitment is very inconsistent. I would recommend as another budget header maybe Hooker. If you check out next month's GMHTP Mag (February 2008 ) you can check them out as we completed a budget heads/cam/headers/catback.

Understood man..maybe ill make it down there for a dyno day when I ready and make my own face to face opinion. Welcome back to NJFBOA. Btw do you guys dyno stangs? :lol: .

LOL Monmouth. We sure do, even work on them too. Have a few lightnings and a bunch of mustangs under our belt, we just don't tell people on the GM sites :)

How about this.. I kinda feel bad rejecting your business concerning the Pacesetters but obviously you see why. Get the headers installed, call Billy @ my shop and you'll be TTP tuned for free. 973 365 2270

thats stand up right there. were a small site and dont have many sponsors yet, but ive met representitives from all of them in person and i feel that anyone that thinks badly of ANY of them, either caught them on a bad day or didnt really deal with them in person.
i met ttpmatt at his track day and it was a great time even though i only got one run in before my car **** the bed

Might be a little while til I get the car but will do...Appreciate it.