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Predator86 12-23-2007 12:10 PM

Opinions on Summit tools and equipment?
 
Just wondering because i frequent the summit site quite often and they have some good tool deals on there... i been steppin it up at work and im gonna need some new tools. Now i do have accounts with snap-on and matco but that gets expensive (especially snap-on) so i think i might pick up some slack with summit...

any opinions? are they good, do they last , anybody here use them?

thanks

NJSPEEDER 12-23-2007 12:18 PM

if you have accounts with snap-on and matco, that is really the best stuff to buy. if you are looking to fill in a few holes in the tool collection, try places like Re-Tool. they buy and sell used hand and power tools.
i have always had good luck finding what i needed and the prices are way better than off the truck. they have all brands too, so you can get discounted snap-on, matco, whatever brand or the cheapies.

Predator86 12-23-2007 12:23 PM

that sounds good but the closest re-tool store i could find is in PA and it dosent look like they deliver

johnjzjz 12-23-2007 02:10 PM

all the cheap stuff is just that cheap stuff use it once and throw it away - e bay snap on is 40 to 65 percent value and you can exchange it for a new one from your dealer if you kind of bend it al little hahahhahahah - jz

Rich189 12-23-2007 02:19 PM

I've always used snap on and craftsman tools and always had good luck with both

Fast92RS 12-23-2007 03:27 PM

Try Eppy's http://www.eppys.com/they have good prices. They sell SK and many other brands cheaper than those big truck guys. Belevie it or not some of that stuff those big truck guys sell is just relabled and charge double the price for.

bubba428 12-23-2007 04:03 PM

I like craftsman. you break it they replace it, and for somebody like me, that comes in handy

camaro2you 12-23-2007 04:18 PM

I agree I love craftsman tools, only things I have broken is one cracked socket(ok that 3ft pipe helped do that lol) some bent screw drivers(hey there good pry parts to) and some ratchets with stripped gears mostly the small 1/4 drive ones.

SteveR 12-23-2007 04:35 PM

The only tools Ive gotten through Jegs/Summit were specialty tools like AN fitting wrenches. For most of my regular tools I go to Sears.

Tru2Chevy 12-23-2007 04:39 PM

Craftsman tools are great for the shadetree mechanic, I have a good sized set of them myself. In a professional shop environment they won't last though, and you'll soon dread running to Sears with your collection of broken tools every so often.

When you do happen to break a Snap-On, Mac, Matco, etc. tool, the truck will be around in a week or less and you exchange it right on the spot for a new one (not used/rebuilt like most craftsman exchanges).

- Justin

Ian 12-23-2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 405492)
Craftsman tools are great for the shadetree mechanic, I have a good sized set of them myself. In a professional shop environment they won't last though, and you'll soon dread running to Sears with your collection of broken tools every so often.

When you do happen to break a Snap-On, Mac, Matco, etc. tool, the truck will be around in a week or less and you exchange it right on the spot for a new one (not used/rebuilt like most craftsman exchanges).

- Justin

:werd:

I started out with craftsman tools because they were cheaper, but I have been replacing them with snap-on as fast as I can afford to :lol:

bad64chevelle 12-23-2007 07:37 PM

Snap on/Matco are definitely the way to go if you can afford them, ive been taking back alot of my craftsman tools over the years that I have broken. The best was the phillips head screw driver I cut, and welded to in the correct angle to put door hinges on my dads car with. The guy behind the counter asked me what happened, and I told him I broke it and tried to fix it, but it wasnt working out. On the average year, I break between 2-3 socket wrenches, countless extensions, many screwdrivers, and lots of other things. If I could go with the better stuff, I would, but for now craftsman is working out ok.

Fast92RS 12-23-2007 08:09 PM

I used mostly craftman tools when I started out and they were great and still are great. When I was working as a tech full time I did by snap on Mac and matco. There prices were not to bad back then. Now I would never pay $500 for a wrench set when I can get a set from sears thats is just about the same quality or better for under 100. F... that. You buy the tools you like best, but to this day working part time as a tech I would never spend that kind of money and I look at these kids that come in to it today and owe the snap on guy like 10k or more just for the stupid tool box. Screw that I can get the job done with crafstman or sk any day.

Blacdout96 12-23-2007 08:37 PM

Harbor Freight FTW!!!! haha j/k, I do havea few tools from them and you cant complain they get teh job done and if they break eh, it was 5 bucks. I had accounts with snap-on and matco, but they are rediculous, prefer craftsman over them all.

69BirdX 12-23-2007 08:50 PM

Id just start with Craftsman you can get good deals through sears............i bought alot of craftsman even with my 50% discounts through snap on and matco from school. You cant beat lifetime warranty for the craftsman price
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Predator86 12-24-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fast92RS (Post 405529)
I used mostly craftman tools when I started out and they were great and still are great. When I was working as a tech full time I did by snap on Mac and matco. There prices were not to bad back then. Now I would never pay $500 for a wrench set when I can get a set from sears thats is just about the same quality or better for under 100. F... that. You buy the tools you like best, but to this day working part time as a tech I would never spend that kind of money and I look at these kids that come in to it today and owe the snap on guy like 10k or more just for the stupid tool box. Screw that I can get the job done with crafstman or sk any day.

my thoughts exactly....my dads been a backyard mechanic for many years and has a garage full of craftsman with no complaints....and now i have been buying my own and i think theyre great....and the ONLY problem i have with them is that they dont have vendors so i have to go get them myself...

and my buddy whose been working at STS for awhile has about 20 grand worth of snap-on tools and has been paying it off for years but still has 8 to go when he could of got 2 or 3 times the tools from craftsman haha

as for impact guns i use ingersol rand....although mine just crapped out so i might get a craftsman one but i dunno how good they are compared to IR

Tru2Chevy 12-24-2007 03:41 PM

I would go with the IR Ti impact guns. We bought my dad one several years ago and it's still going strong. Nice and light, and very powerful.

- Justin

camaro2you 12-24-2007 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 405742)
I would go with the IR Ti impact guns. We bought my dad one several years ago and it's still going strong. Nice and light, and very powerful.

- Justin

I agree I have one thats about 20 years old and its still going great.

johnjzjz 12-24-2007 10:44 PM

as was said as a hobbyist craftsman are great and inexpensive - most of mine have been machined down into bushing removers and installers - but if you use tools every day they don't do the job, they don't fit in the places the snap ons do and hand fatigue is much greater with the cheaper wrenches and ratchets, as well as breakage and hand crashing into the fan or radiator will make you see the difference in cost is cheap next to not doing that again - but if its a some time fix this or that sure don't forget SK tools and home depot has nice polished finished wrenches that are sweet 5/16 to 1- 1/4 set is worth the money i use tools ever day ad have almost forever hahahahahahah look at how much you Will use and buy that in mind - jz

Predator86 12-28-2007 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 405742)
I would go with the IR Ti impact guns. We bought my dad one several years ago and it's still going strong. Nice and light, and very powerful.

- Justin

i just bought one off the snap-on truck today at work....its the latest one out to date...its alot smaller and lighter than the old IR i was using.....it was a promotion package so with the gloves and 5 SAE impact sockets it ran me about $360

1972LT1 12-29-2007 01:42 AM

Sears has some really good sales on their tools. In 10 years of use, I've only broken 1 wrench,and Sears replaced it no questions asked. Yeah, if you break a wrench,you have to go to Sears to exchange it, or you can wait days for the Snap-On truck to come around.

Ian 12-29-2007 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 1972LT1 (Post 406743)
Sears has some really good sales on their tools. In 10 years of use, I've only broken 1 wrench,and Sears replaced it no questions asked. Yeah, if you break a wrench,you have to go to Sears to exchange it, or you can wait days for the Snap-On truck to come around.

thats not entirely true. If I break something, I can call my snap on rep and he'll stop by the dealership that day. I know its not the case with every snap on rep, but if get in good with them, they'll bend over backwards to help you out.

another thing I have to question, in that 10 years it took you to break a wrench, how many days a week and how many weeks per year did you use that wrench? I'm not knocking Craftsman, far from it. Craftsman is a great company with very good prices. But to me, their tools feel cheap in my hands compared to snap on, matco or even mac. a lot of it is personal preference I guess. And you are paying for the name when you buy snap on stuff, but then again nothing else is better IMO.

Fast92RS 12-29-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian (Post 406780)
thats not entirely true. If I break something, I can call my snap on rep and he'll stop by the dealership that day. I know its not the case with every snap on rep, but if get in good with them, they'll bend over backwards to help you out.

another thing I have to question, in that 10 years it took you to break a wrench, how many days a week and how many weeks per year did you use that wrench? I'm not knocking Craftsman, far from it. Craftsman is a great company with very good prices. But to me, their tools feel cheap in my hands compared to snap on, matco or even mac. a lot of it is personal preference I guess. And you are paying for the name when you buy snap on stuff, but then again nothing else is better IMO.

I agree its all personal preference, but all the snap on dealers I ever had were d***ks. When I worked at the ford dealer my snap on dealer decided to stop showing up and sent everyone nasty letters on whet they owed him. Now the place I work at now, we have a mac, snap on, matco and a sk guy. No one buys from the snap on guy and he also decided to stop showing up because he got pissed that he lost a sale of a tool box to the sk guy. Many of the guys have plenty of snap on tools that need to warranted but no dealer to warranty them. So we called the district manger to complain. So guess what the guy shows up for a couple weeks then stops coming. The mac guy we have is a d**k as well. He says that he only warranties tools to guys that buy from him... F that.

Ian 12-29-2007 05:31 PM

yeah, it really depends on the dealer. ours is a great guy. we had a mac man for a little bit, but he stopped showing up.

SamhainZ28 12-29-2007 07:32 PM

mac is where its at


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