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DaSkinnyGuy 12-29-2007 02:27 PM

Thank Bush
 
Was at a gas station in daytona beach today and noticed this, its pretty much true.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...aytona8008.jpg

shane27 12-29-2007 03:34 PM

i thought the war was for oil???

JL8Jeff 12-29-2007 04:38 PM

So you're saying you would rather pay $5-6 a gallon instead of $3.22? :scratch: We are lucky our gas prices are as low as they are. Europe is paying big money for gas.

keith2717 12-29-2007 04:42 PM

I just paid 2.79 a gal. on rt.130 in edgewater park:drool:

7pointoh 12-29-2007 06:22 PM

On some days, that's how much the price was for the regular stuff in CA. For Premium, I paid as high as $3.45/gallon. I agree though, it's still pretty high, but not as high as other states
Here's a tip that saves my wallet. I never fill up. I never let it fall below a certain level. I got pissed off when I paid $3.17 one day for 27 gallons and the next day the price dropped to $2.90:banghead:.
I'm waiting until the community where I live at starts running E85.

35thls1ss19 12-29-2007 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JL8Jeff (Post 406859)
So you're saying you would rather pay $5-6 a gallon instead of $3.22? :scratch: We are lucky our gas prices are as low as they are. Europe is paying big money for gas.


yes and the higher price also pays for road taxes, health insurance and many other things that are way out of control in our country.

//<86TA>\\ 12-29-2007 06:33 PM

people who think everything in the world is bush's fault are retarded. The icecaps are melting, its bush's fault!!! my city built in a hole flooded, its bush's fault, i ordered a cheeseburger and didnt get cheese, its bush's fault.
I cant say i like the price of gas, but it could be a whole lot worse.
________
Asian Cam

maroman88 12-29-2007 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\ (Post 406898)
people who think everything in the world is bush's fault are retarded. The icecaps are melting, its bush's fault!!! my city built in a hole flooded, its bush's fault, i ordered a cheeseburger and didnt get cheese, its bush's fault.
I cant say i like the price of gas, but it could be a whole lot worse.

i agree 150%. the president can only do so much lol

DaSkinnyGuy 12-29-2007 07:42 PM

Guys this isnt a war thread to start fighting its just a pic, just theres no need for gas to be more than $2 a gallon. Exxon/mobile's profit was billions of $$$$ i think if we payed under $2 a gallon they would still be making a year profit of billion $$.

ar0ck 12-29-2007 08:05 PM

Blame the hippies who won't allow us to tap into our own natural resources in the Gulf of Mexico, Texas & Alaska.

johnjzjz 12-29-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaSkinnyGuy (Post 406922)
Guys this isnt a war thread to start fighting its just a pic, just theres no need for gas to be more than $2 a gallon. Exxon/mobile's profit was billions of $$$$ i think if we payed under $2 a gallon they would still be making a year profit of billion $$.

than y the bush bashing -- as if he has any real control over what a private company owned buy stock holders not a government agency he has some control over charges for its product ---- this is a democracy the USA last time i looked of coarse you can buy CITCO that Dem Joe Kennedy is part owner of it, and now doing its TV adds for a dictator that lost his own rigged election and still running the country he calls HIS -- jz

hope this wasent too deep for ya

Tru2Chevy 12-29-2007 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaSkinnyGuy (Post 406922)
Guys this isnt a war thread to start fighting its just a pic, just theres no need for gas to be more than $2 a gallon. Exxon/mobile's profit was billions of $$$$ i think if we payed under $2 a gallon they would still be making a year profit of billion $$.

Where did you get that info? Exxon/Mobil hasn't been it's own company in several years, so there is no way you could get profit information from them for the past several years.

- Justin

Featherburner 12-29-2007 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 406942)
Where did you get that info? Exxon/Mobil hasn't been it's own company in several years, so there is no way you could get profit information from them for the past several years.

- Justin

I don't know where you got your info. but, do a google search for Exxon and the info. is out there.

Frosty 12-29-2007 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaSkinnyGuy (Post 406922)
Guys this isnt a war thread to start fighting its just a pic, just theres no need for gas to be more than $2 a gallon. Exxon/mobile's profit was billions of $$$$ i think if we payed under $2 a gallon they would still be making a year profit of billion $$.

Then why blame Bush? Oh that's right, it's uneducated people like yourself that would rather jump on the liberal bandwagon then do some research. I don't like W either but for Christ sake, not EVERYTHING is his fault. Read up on how our government works, on man does NOT have all of the power.

Would Clinton be catching this much heat if prices rose this much under his term? Doubtful.

NJSPEEDER 12-29-2007 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Featherburner (Post 406947)
I don't know where you got your info. but, do a google search for Exxon and the info. is out there.

exxon and mobil still both exist, but their empires were broken up into parts for Luk and BP to take control. even husky, canada's last standing oil empire is down for the count and being bought out by foreign interests.

JohnG 12-30-2007 01:08 AM

what you guys are missing is this --

the Federal Trade Commission is in charge of protecting us from monopolies, and from unfair business practices.

8 of the 9 members of the FTC are republicans.

keep that in mind for a bit...

from 2000 - the present, the FTC has approved every single oil company merger, with no conditions placed upon those actions.

when those mergers were proposed, the companies closed refineries, due to "excess capacity".

sounds logical, right ?

but, oh, wouldn't those refineries have been helpful now !

fellas, the speculators on the trading floor are driving up the prices, as are the hedge funds. BUT, their speculation is based on the U.S.'s lack of refining capacity.

crude supplies aren't the issue, never were.

if they had been, OPEC, Venezuela, etc. would have no room to play with output like they have been.

the Texas republicans, and their mindless puppet in the White House, have played the variables to perfection.

don't use the Europe example -- they have no resources, we do. from sea to shining sea, we have the resources in abundance.

cheap gas is your birthright as an American citizen.

for us to be paying these prices, is the result of a weak president, plain & simple.

Ian 12-30-2007 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ar0ck (Post 406925)
Blame the hippies who won't allow us to tap into our own natural resources in the Gulf of Mexico, Texas & Alaska.

okay, lets say that we have been drilling there. where is it gonna get refined genius? thats right, the problem is not lack of in-country oil drilling, the problem is that we don't have enough refineries to be self sufficient. the united states uses more oil than any other country, we would never be able to support ourselves.

Savage_Messiah 12-30-2007 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by johnjzjz (Post 406927)
than y the bush bashing

It's too easy, because at least off the top of my head I can't think of any other president who has driven our (once?) great country into a deeper ******** than he has



Regardless of that though, I must agree that to blame high oil prices DIRECTLY on him is pretty dumb. While yes our warmongering has not helped any, our own private companies have been driving up prices more than nexessary on their own for their own profit.

LS1Hawk 12-30-2007 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\ (Post 406898)
I cant say i like the price of gas, but it could be a whole lot worse.

Time to reminisce .... I remember when I got my license, regular was only $.89 .... But yeah, it could be A LOT worse, like 1973. As high as gas prices are now, at least it hasn't been cutoff and we're not waiting in line for 3 hours just to get a gallon of gas.

qwikz28 12-30-2007 08:45 AM

i think people also forget about inflation of the dollar. the old $.99 compared to $2.99 for gas isn't terrible if you think how much the dollar has inflated. hell, i paid $4.59 for a gallon of milk the other day...

johnjzjz 12-30-2007 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnG (Post 407023)
what you guys are missing is this --

the Federal Trade Commission is in charge of protecting us from monopolies, and from unfair business practices.

8 of the 9 members of the FTC are republicans.

keep that in mind for a bit...

from 2000 - the present, the FTC has approved every single oil company merger, with no conditions placed upon those actions.

when those mergers were proposed, the companies closed refineries, due to "excess capacity".

sounds logical, right ?

but, oh, wouldn't those refineries have been helpful now !

fellas, the speculators on the trading floor are driving up the prices, as are the hedge funds. BUT, their speculation is based on the U.S.'s lack of refining capacity.

crude supplies aren't the issue, never were.

if they had been, OPEC, Venezuela, etc. would have no room to play with output like they have been.

the Texas republicans, and their mindless puppet in the White House, have played the variables to perfection.

don't use the Europe example -- they have no resources, we do. from sea to shining sea, we have the resources in abundance.

cheap gas is your birthright as an American citizen.

for us to be paying these prices, is the result of a weak president, plain & simple.

WOW some on this site are lost but real is a term comes to mind after reading that ( cheap gas is your birthright as an American citizen. ) what book did that come out of -----8 of the 9 members of the FTC are republicans -- its called an over site committee and they can only suggest and every president picks who does what oh yea its bushes fault than fellas,

the speculators on the trading floor are driving up the prices, as are the hedge funds. BUT, their speculation is based on the U.S.'s lack of refining capacity.

The liberal tree huggers during Democrat administrations shut off Americas oil supply because the spotted owls to fish to were dieing off in great numbers -- some how that Will be missed in your answer how the left were the driving force to the spot we are in now

about supply issues when those mergers were proposed, the companies closed refineries, due to "excess capacity".

classic example of far left web site bull about the spot we are in dude

the problem with puter answers is it falls on deaf ears

johnjzjz 12-30-2007 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah (Post 407032)
It's too easy, because at least off the top of my head I can't think of any other president who has driven our (once?) great country into a deeper ******** than he has



Regardless of that though, I must agree that to blame high oil prices DIRECTLY on him is pretty dumb. While yes our warmongering has not helped any, our own private companies have been driving up prices more than nexessary on their own for their own profit.

you keep eluding to we should have done nothing at all after 911 -- and as a pacifist your ideas are always good for a laugh ( warmongers see it that way ) soooo please amuse me with what if anything you think the USA should have or not -- as seen buy you WHAT should we have done ?????????????? --This warmonger sees it different than you > jz

Teds89IROC 12-30-2007 09:36 AM

The problem is OPEC, their nations account for 2/3 of the world's oil reserves and therefore control the price.

Rafterman 12-30-2007 10:37 AM

I'm down in North Lauderdale right now and the prices are between 3.03 and 3.35. Its crazy.

shane27 12-30-2007 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnjzjz (Post 407049)
soooo please amuse me with what if anything you think the USA should have or not

lol you will NEVER get an answer for that from anyone against the war.

BTW what about drilling in ANWR? all demoz and tree huggers oppose it, and if we were allowed to drill there we would have a lot less problems, cheaper oil and so on.

incase your wondering wtf im talking about heres a link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_...ng_controversy


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