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Blacdout96 01-11-2008 09:46 PM

9C1 engine and trans.
 
So... I went to a local junkyard today, and apparently a local police department finally got rid of some of their cars. they have 6 LT1 caprice 9C1 cars there, and I gotta ask guys, is it worth it to buy the engine and trans and swap it into my car, and will it fit. It does have a 4L60E trans, but is the tailshaft longer or anything? I want to get one so badly, and I will rebuild it, but should I go that route. I also saw a V12 Jaguar enigne that Im drooling to have for something else, but i also wnat the LT1, so guys, will it fit, and will it be worth it?

Mike 01-11-2008 10:02 PM

trans should be the same....just need the v8 kmember, driveshaft and harness/computer and whatever supporting mods the drivetrain and suspension would need (i know your cars modded but i forget what you have)

Blacdout96 01-11-2008 10:15 PM

I have an aluminum driveshaft, and I would need the K member, fromt springs, radiator, and instrument bezel. and everythings in those car ,the wiring harness and all, but does painless make one for LT1 cars to simplify it?

WildBillyT 01-11-2008 10:18 PM

Just be sure you are looking at an LT1 car. The L99 4.3L V-8 was also available in the big cars and it's easily mistaken for an LT1.

Read this first:
http://www.carcraft.com/featuredvehi...t_caprice.html

Blacdout96 01-11-2008 10:22 PM

oh no these are the real deal LT1's, hell if anyone needs any LT1 parts, let me know and I could pick em up for ya, and I might grab a posi unit from one ( It might of been thrashed in its day but you never know) and supposidly the torque converters have more stall then the stock ones, how much idk but im not swapping it in right away, these htings need to get freshened up, then built the way I envisioned what I wanted, just like how I envisioned my car, and everyone seems to like it, so we'll see. another question I have and this is a biggy..... the Edelbrock LT4 intake manifold, does that fit on LT1 heads, or must I find LT4 heads, I keep hearing conflicting stories of yes and no, but you guys are the pros ot me so what do you guys know?

BonzoHansen 01-11-2008 10:44 PM

It is probably way more effort then it is worth. If your car wasn't so nice I'd say sell it & get a V8 car. Plus those cop LT1s have been beaten hard.

For that much effort, go LS. Just $0.02

Pampered_Z here is good with LT1s. So is j0n, hit him up at bob's place.

Blacdout96 01-11-2008 11:03 PM

Thanks guys. Id love to go LS, really, but I figured, hey why not stay period correct at least, and I always liked the look of the LT intakes over the LS's, and it gives me a chance to dabble in the great optispark area lol j/k, but I do wanna try to stay within my V8 engine era with it, and its a tad bit cheaper with the moneyi got now then to by and LS1. I have a crap load of money, but thatnks to the American Government, while thousands of illegal immigrants a day cross our border and never get caught, trying to bring some one here legally is expensive and hard, so I have only so much extra spending money now, and this fits my budget :)

JSPERFORMANCE 01-12-2008 08:10 AM

GM never put the lt1 in the caprice or impala. The engine is an iron headded version of it that makes less power and is heavier than the lt1.

deadtrend1 01-12-2008 09:27 AM

think of how much time those cop car engines idle, and idle, and idle, then go WOT, and idle....

Blacdout96 01-12-2008 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE (Post 410426)
GM never put the lt1 in the caprice or impala. The engine is an iron headded version of it that makes less power and is heavier than the lt1.

You are correct there in the sense that it is not the one found on F-bodies and most likely correct period, but it is considered an LT1 on the cop sites I went to, and as to what I found out about the heads, they outflow the aluminum ones by 20 cfm. the specs are 260hp, and 333 ft. lbs. and im not running it with that cam and stuff, like I said its getting rebuilt the way I want it to. sent out to the machine shop down here, and slowly builtthe way I want it, and will probably take a year or so, the only thing im deciding on is if I should keep the current heads, or buy aluminum. I want an LT4 for it and the hotcam kit that summit sells, those are m two biggy's on my list. but even if I dont get it, an LT1 is on my list to go in my car, its just that heres an engine wihtt he wiring harness and engine together. ill get a trans later, i dont watn the trans in this, as Tim mention, think about them idle then WOT, im sure those trans took a beating. I do thank you all for your input, it has helped me see a few things so far. kep em coming guys

JSPERFORMANCE 01-12-2008 10:37 AM

If you are seriously considering an lt1 swap why not just get everything out of a f-body? Contemporary corvette has complete drivetrains available with everything you would need to do the swap. Rather than trying to cobble up something from a whooped up cop car.

You can believe your internet experts all you want the heads may outflow but the bowl design and combustion chambers suck, therefore making less power with more tendancy to knock. But then again, I am no internet expert I just work on these cars in real life.

Blacdout96 01-12-2008 10:52 AM

haha, I dont doubt your expertiese Josh, im just saying whats been said. I would, but everything is so expensive, as I stated earlier I have money for an LS1 if I wanted it, but the ****ing Government is screwing me over trying to get my g/f back here, so I have some play money left over from all this ********, but not enough to buy a LT1 F-body setup, and I thought this could be a good opportunity to get one at a low price and go from there and build it over time, but I mean thats why I came on here, to get your points of views, and its made me think twice about getting it.

JSPERFORMANCE 01-12-2008 10:56 AM

Give contemp corvette a call you may be suprised how much it will cost. His prices are very reasonable for the quality of his product. Hell, you might even be able to afford that ls1.. A budget is about spending the money you have correctly, not getting the cheapest parts available.

Blacdout96 01-12-2008 11:05 AM

whats their number and website?

JSPERFORMANCE 01-12-2008 11:08 AM

not sure, try searching contemproary corvette, i am sure it will come up. Their name on ebay is fparts.

WildBillyT 01-12-2008 12:07 PM

Contemporary Corvette is off of Old Rogers road in Bristol, PA. I think their website is http://www.contemporarycorvette.com

JSPERFORMANCE 01-12-2008 12:52 PM

yup, right around the corner from my shop.

Blacdout96 01-12-2008 01:04 PM

sweet, hopefully they havea good price on a vette

JSPERFORMANCE 01-12-2008 01:07 PM

I thought you wanted a drivetrain..where did the vette idea come from?

Blacdout96 01-12-2008 03:11 PM

well no im just saying, cause I see just vettes on there, if im getting a drivetrain setup, im guessing its coming out of a vette? also I want a front brake setup off a 97-04 vette, but I guess Ill talk to the guy to see what exactly he has there.

JSPERFORMANCE 01-12-2008 03:29 PM

They are a late model gm boneyard they got their name and rep doing vettes but they have f bodys, impalas, and gtos also

deadtrend1 01-12-2008 04:38 PM

you need to call and ask to talk to the fbody guy. I forget his name. They don't advertise their Fbody stock really.

Mike 01-12-2008 06:20 PM

I got the dash and airbags for my t\a from contemporary. They were great guys to deal with and their prices on my parts were much Better then everywhere else I looked

unstable bob gable 01-12-2008 07:55 PM

Dude, I might have to take a ride down your way and have you hook me up w/ these junkyards. I need some hard parts/accessories for my LT1 build up...:idea:

deadtrend1 01-12-2008 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unstable bob gable (Post 410554)
Dude, I might have to take a ride down your way and have you hook me up w/ these junkyards. I need some hard parts/accessories for my LT1 build up...:idea:

What'cha lookin' fer Bab?


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