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slugger27nj 03-03-2008 09:55 AM

Plane wing scrapes ground during landing!
 
I fly quite a bit and have had some bad landings in windy conditions, especially on those small Embraer 145's, but this is crazy:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe...ane/index.html

qwikz28 03-03-2008 10:10 AM

i'm terrified of flying as it is and i think i would have a heart attack if i were in that plane. :shock:

Untamed 03-03-2008 11:38 AM

Definately scary, but the pilot did a great job of recovering. According to the artical, he landed safely on the second pass.

Coming in at that angle is called a "crab angle". I've done a number of cross wind landings in a Cessna 152. They definately get the pulse pounding. What the pilot apprently did not do, is adjust for the cross wind by coming out of the crab angle prior to touchdown. You can't just kick the tail over and hope the plane comes down.

I imagine the pasengers in that smaller airplane were terrified after hearing the scrape and maybe seeing sparks out the window.

Anti_Rice_Guy 03-03-2008 12:37 PM

Gosh, he just felt like drifting, what's the big deal about? :lol:

SteveR 03-03-2008 01:35 PM

I hate cross wind landings. Thats so hard to do. Even Chuck Yeager got in trouble with his P-51 not to long ago trying to land with heavy cross wind. What they should have done here was apply left rudder around 100 feet to correct the problem. What they did wrong was apply left aileron which is what led to the wing touching the runway in combination with the cross wind pushing the right wing up.

Untamed 03-03-2008 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveR (Post 425081)
I hate cross wind landings. Thats so hard to do. Even Chuck Yeager got in trouble with his P-51 not to long ago trying to land with heavy cross wind. What they should have done here was apply left rudder around 100 feet to correct the problem. What they did wrong was apply left aileron which is what led to the wing touching the runway in combination with the cross wind pushing the right wing up.

I guess my cross wind landings were different. The left aileron was correct, but what is needed is right rudder to correct the planes desire to turn left with the increased left aileron. The effect is a left-wing-low "tilt" to the plane, which he had, unfortunately he didn't flare well once he got into ground effect. The left, rear strut should touch the ground first, followed by the right rear strut. Instead his wing was too low and he "skipped" off the ground. *shrugs*

Fortunately all are still alive.

SteveR 03-03-2008 04:30 PM

Yea, right rudder to establish the correct crab position, right aileron around 2 - 5 degrees to keep the right wing tip lower than the left to keep the wind from pushing the wing over, thrust determines left and right position over the runway, and right before you touch down, release right rudder and apply a little left rudder to straighten the plane out, letting the left rear wheels hit first.

Teds89IROC 03-03-2008 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 425049)
i'm terrified of flying as it is and i think i would have a heart attack if i were in that plane. :shock:

same here

Jersey_TA 03-04-2008 06:44 AM

I saw that on the news last night....CRAZY!!!!

91DropTop 03-04-2008 06:48 AM

Did anyone else think the reporter was Carmen Elektra for a second...i was like WTF then i was like oh its not her haha

Demonicbird00 03-05-2008 03:53 PM

thats crazy....i woulda been fine if that happened. more on the side of omg this is cool lol

-brandon


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