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qwikz28 06-17-2008 12:16 PM

Nationality
 
I am Egyptian and I am applying for internships. Which do you think I should choose? Would it be wrong to put African American to boost my application? Choices are above. If you vote, put a reason also

ar0ck 06-17-2008 12:21 PM

I'm pretty sure Egyptian is considered Middle Eastern which is a nationality.

WildBillyT 06-17-2008 12:23 PM

Jake-

Would you mind if I changed it up? I've got a demo scale from here at work that would be good. I always wanted to find this out myself. Same thing with height/weight.

FWIW, I was good friends with an Egyptian who applied for an African-American scholarship. They tried to deny him, he sued them, and won.

qwikz28 06-17-2008 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ar0ck (Post 456630)
I'm pretty sure Egyptian is considered Middle Eastern which is a nationality.

Egypt isn't middle east. only thing in common is language which is of Muslim origin, not national

qwikz28 06-17-2008 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 456631)
Jake-

Would you mind if I changed it up? I've got a demo scale from here at work that would be good. I always wanted to find this out myself. Same thing with height/weight.

FWIW, I was good friends with an Egyptian who applied for an African-American scholarship. They tried to deny him, he sued them, and won.

i don't understand what your asking but sure.

79CamaroDiva 06-17-2008 12:38 PM

For scholarships and grants, i might say choose African American to boost the application, but in an internship, you actually have to work with the people and that might give them the idea that you try to get away with things.

However, Egypt is really part of Africa, so you wouldn't technically be doing anything wrong.

CaysE 06-17-2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 456632)
Egypt isn't middle east. only thing in common is language which is of Muslim origin, not national

Egypt is widely considered a part of the middle east... the same with Sudan, also in Africa. Turkey, as well; a part of Europe. The middle east doesn't have political boundaries; it's just a description of the region.

WildBillyT 06-17-2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 456633)
i don't understand what your asking but sure.

Sorry, brain fart. I wanted to do another poll for all the members to describe their nationality.

qwikz28 06-17-2008 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CaysE (Post 456641)
Egypt is widely considered a part of the middle east... the same with Sudan, also in Africa. Turkey, as well; a part of Europe. The middle east doesn't have political boundaries; it's just a description of the region.

understandable. morocco is considered middle east as well. what i'm saying is egypt traces its influence back to Greece, which is European, and not to Iraq and that area.

CaysE 06-17-2008 12:57 PM

That's like saying I'm Irish because my great grandparents were born there. I'm not Irish; I'm American. ;)

ar0ck 06-17-2008 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 456645)
understandable. morocco is considered middle east as well. what i'm saying is egypt traces its influence back to Greece, which is European, and not to Iraq and that area.

Its been geographically considered the Middle East since the dawn of time :lol: Its not necessarily all based on religion, its a geographic area.

http://webtech.cherokee.k12.ga.us/et...iddle-East.gif

I'm a History Major, come on now. :)

qwikz28 06-17-2008 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CaysE (Post 456648)
That's like saying I'm Irish because my great grandparents were born there. I'm not Irish; I'm American. ;)

but now your Irish-American. They are asking for my native descent, not my skin tone. Am I African-American or Caucasian. By definition I'm African American, but whose definition is that anyway? Is there a set guideline for this? Maybe I'm trying to justify taking advantage of a system thats designed to level the playing field for underprivileged people. I don't know. Right now my LSAC has me listed as Other. I applied to undergrad as African American with the exception of Rutgers which I applied as white. I didn't get rejected from any schools. African American makes the most sense to me.

WildBillyT 06-17-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 456655)
but now your Irish-American. They are asking for my native descent, not my skin tone. Am I African-American or Caucasian. By definition I'm African American, but whose definition is that anyway? Is there a set guideline for this? Maybe I'm trying to justify taking advantage of a system thats designed to level the playing field for underprivileged people. I don't know. Right now my LSAC has me listed as Other. I applied to undergrad as African American with the exception of Rutgers which I applied as white. I didn't get rejected from any schools. African American makes the most sense to me.

Jake,

You may want to search around on the Internet and see what other people have done. My buddy Mike is not the only person I've heard of who has had to use the "Egypt is part of Africa" rule to qualify as African-American.

Also, what about people from South Africa? Some of them are as white as ghosts, but they are technically African.

Tsar 06-17-2008 01:19 PM

Nationality - Egyptian, Russian, Korean, etc
Race - White, A/A

Pretty sure they do not ask for nationalities, and as far as the race goes I think you would fit into "Others" unless they have a specific designation for you. I will agree with Alex about the Middle Eastern thing.

Savage_Messiah 06-17-2008 01:20 PM

Egypt is a part of the African continent...

Tsar 06-17-2008 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah (Post 456662)
Egypt is a part of the African continent...

look in post 7 and then look at the map, then get back here.

Savage_Messiah 06-17-2008 01:31 PM

http://www.africandecade.org/image-r...nContinent.png

http://www.waet.uga.edu/wiki/images/b/b6/Kenya_1.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ent-fr.svg.png

http://www.unep.org/ozone/Events/african_continent.gif

http://www.tigerhomes.org/animal/images/africa_edu.gif

http://www.eolc-observatory.net/glob...nt_regions.gif




I got plenty more maps, you wanna play that card?

Tsar 06-17-2008 01:44 PM

Do you see where Sudan is located? somehow its widely considered to be part of middle east. Do you know where Turkey is? I'll give you a hint - "middle east" - but ohh my god it's part of EUROPEAN union and its not even in Europe! OHHH MY GOD, I think the world is coming to an end.

Oh another thing, go to BBC's website and look into the Middle East Section, guess what's there Sudan. And I know perfectly well where its located, I took geography before you got to high school.

BonzoHansen 06-17-2008 01:49 PM

Now where is central middle east?

Tsar 06-17-2008 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 456679)
Now where is central middle east?

the center doesn't exist, its forever expending :lol:

enRo 06-17-2008 01:57 PM

I did a massive search in this thread, and still cant find Egypt. Can someone point it out?

















:rofl:

Their asking for race... Not particularly making comparisons here, but what do you think a South American would put as their answer? Its pretty much the same concept. Just put "Other" cuz your fine Egyptian race isnt included in the other options :D

Tsar 06-17-2008 01:58 PM

Since I'm bored, I'll add a little more to the whole African continent debacle.

Just because a country is located on the continent may not necessarily give them the proper destination. Such as Sudan and Egypt are located on the African continent but they are considered by many to be part of the Middle East. Just like the Scenario above, we have Eurasian landmass which is divided into Europe, Asia, and Middle East; do you think we should refer to them all as the same after all they are all part of the same continent. If we can divide one part of the world and call it different names we can certainly do the same to the other parts, and we have done so for a long time.

Tsar 06-17-2008 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyKane (Post 456683)
I did a massive search in this thread, and still cant find Egypt. Can someone point it out?

















:rofl:

Their asking for race... Not particularly making comparisons here, but what do you think a South American would put as their answer? Its pretty much the same concept. Just put "Other" cuz your fine Egyptian race isnt included in the other options :D

Egyptian isn't a race, its nationality you newbie :lol:

Savage_Messiah 06-17-2008 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 456679)
Now where is central middle east?


There is none, it's the south!

enRo 06-17-2008 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar (Post 456685)
Egyptian isn't a race, its nationality you newbie :lol:

Oops... typo o_O Good call n00b3rt


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