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NJ Torque 12-13-2008 11:20 PM

ET roll bar rule...
 
from Rule Book

ROLL CAGE

Roll cage mandatory in cars running 10.99 (*6.99) or quicker or any car exceding 135 mph. In full-bodied cars, with unaltered firewall, floor, and body (from firewall rearward, wheeltubs permitted), runing between 10.00 (*6.40) and 10.99 (*6.99), roll bar permitted in place of roll cage. In convertinles running 10.99 (*6.99) or quicker or exceding 135 mph, roll cage mandatory


Hmm?

Mike 12-13-2008 11:36 PM

what is your question?

NJ Torque 12-13-2008 11:38 PM

Looks like it was lowered, no?

SRGN 12-13-2008 11:43 PM

It appears to be lowered, but who knows. Won't affect you Chris as the only car you have fast enough is the one I sold you and it already has a cage. I'm doing a 10 point in my 67 so I don't have to worry about this crap for a while.

Mike 12-14-2008 12:03 AM

thats from the 09 rule book already?

NJ Torque 12-14-2008 12:19 AM

Yes.

Squirrel 12-14-2008 01:54 AM

thats because there are stock cars that are pushing those numbers, the numbers were lowered mostly because of tons of 03 cobra convertible guys getting booted

Mike 12-14-2008 06:50 AM

its wierd that they would lower the street car requirements at the same time that their safety practices are coming under fire for the upper classes

not complaining, its just wierd

Blackbirdws6 12-14-2008 06:55 AM

umm WOOOT!!! lol

qwikz28 12-14-2008 07:09 AM

this should make jon (b64c) really happy

Mike 12-14-2008 07:13 AM

makes me really happy, its 1700 i can spend next year

Kat 12-14-2008 08:04 AM

Same here. I wont have to worry about hitting 11's in the vert. :cool:

bad64chevelle 12-14-2008 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 523152)
this should make jon (b64c) really happy

Hell yeah it does!
:w00t:

79CamaroDiva 12-14-2008 09:39 AM

I'm not sure why its making you guys happy... that says specifically for a roll CAGE. a roll BAR is still mandatory for cars 11.49 and qucker. and verts 13.49 and quicker. sorry.

SRGN 12-14-2008 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva (Post 523171)
I'm not sure why its making you guys happy... that says specifically for a roll CAGE. a roll BAR is still mandatory for cars 11.49 and qucker. and verts 13.49 and quicker. sorry.

Some are interpreting the following sentence as the rule dropping from 11.49 to 10.99:

Quote:

In full-bodied cars, with unaltered firewall, floor, and body (from firewall rearward, wheeltubs permitted), runing between 10.00 (*6.40) and 10.99 (*6.99), roll bar permitted in place of roll cage.

WildBillyT 12-14-2008 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRGN (Post 523193)
Some are interpreting the following sentence as the rule dropping from 11.49 to 10.49:

I was under the understanding that a bar is good until 10.00. 9.99 is when you need the 10 point.

SRGN 12-14-2008 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 523277)
I was under the understanding that a bar is good until 10.00. 9.99 is when you need the 10 point.

That is correct. The part that gets confusing is whether the bar will be needed at 11.0 or 11.5. Crap I just realized I said 10.49 instead of 10.99. oops...

Tru2Chevy 12-14-2008 04:04 PM

A BAR is still needed at 11.49, but now a full-bodied, unaltered car will be allowed to run a BAR instead of a CAGE until 9.99 instead of 10.99.

- Justin

WildBillyT 12-14-2008 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 523294)
A BAR is still needed at 11.49, but now a full-bodied, unaltered car will be allowed to run a BAR instead of a CAGE until 9.99 instead of 10.99.

- Justin

I thought you could already do this. A cage isn't needed until 9.99/135, and to the best of my understanding it has been that way since at least '05- that's when I installed a bar from S&W in a 10.xx car at their instruction.

Slow 88 12-14-2008 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 523304)
I thought you could already do this. A cage isn't needed until 9.99/135, and to the best of my understanding it has been that way since at least '05- that's when I installed a bar from S&W in a 10.xx car at their instruction.

You are correct..

SRGN 12-14-2008 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 523304)
I thought you could already do this. A cage isn't needed until 9.99/135, and to the best of my understanding it has been that way since at least '05- that's when I installed a bar from S&W in a 10.xx car at their instruction.

That is correct, 5/6 point bar good to 9.99/135. Many people are reading into the rollbar part as not being needed until 10.99.

79CamaroDiva 12-15-2008 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 523304)
I thought you could already do this. A cage isn't needed until 9.99/135, and to the best of my understanding it has been that way since at least '05- that's when I installed a bar from S&W in a 10.xx car at their instruction.

I believe what happened is NHRA has now made the cage rule more stringent instead of lenient. They are saying the car has to be completely unaltered in order for it to not need a cage at 10.0 where nothing used to need it until 9.99

LTb1ow 01-10-2009 04:21 PM

Just a quick question, at what time do you need a roll bar?

79CamaroDiva 01-10-2009 04:26 PM

A roll bar is still needed at 11.49 for hard top vehicles, 13.49 for convertibles. I am going to the nhra tech meetings next week so if that changes I'll post it up

LTb1ow 01-10-2009 04:28 PM

Ok thanks, and does it matter if it is a 4,5,or 6 point? Weld in or bolt in? Etc.


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