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2RARE84s 12-19-2008 08:20 PM

Music "file sharing" to get much more expensive...
 
Music industry to team up with ISPs to "crack down" on Music "File Sharing".... Discuss...

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/31678

NJSPEEDER 12-19-2008 08:21 PM

The millionaires want more money. No big surprise.

2RARE84s 12-19-2008 08:23 PM

guess I better go get that 1.5TB hard drive and fill it up before this starts happening! :lol:

Iroc-z86 12-19-2008 08:52 PM

i wonder if it affects torrents...

BonzoHansen 12-19-2008 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Iroc-z86 (Post 525388)
i wonder if it affects LEGAL torrents...

That is my question. I don't d/l copyrighted stuff, but I needs my concert recordings....

FIcamaroRE92 12-19-2008 11:11 PM

Is this saying that using stuff like limewire is now being enforced?, sorry but I didnt understand what was being said in the link.

enRo 12-19-2008 11:16 PM

Proxy Servers FTW.

BonzoHansen 12-20-2008 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by enRo (Post 525477)
Proxy Servers FTW.

But if they team up with the ISPs how does a proxy server help? Doesn't the ISP still know who you are?

WildBillyT 12-20-2008 10:09 AM

W/E.

They will knock one service down and then another will take its place.

I wonder how they will determine which packets are illegal music or video. It's not like they say "ILLEGAL **** FTW" in the TCP header.

enRo 12-20-2008 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 525548)
But if they team up with the ISPs how does a proxy server help? Doesn't the ISP still know who you are?

RIAA will have to have an IP address in order to determine who the pirate is... then they can contact their ISP... using a proxy server uses another IP address, so how can they detect you in the first place? For all we know the IP address of the proxy server could be in Texas somewhere.

Tsar 12-20-2008 10:58 AM

I payed for all my music :shrug:

r0nin89 12-20-2008 11:35 AM

Eh Soul Seek ftw.

r0nin89 12-20-2008 11:36 AM

Lol I just thought of some. Big deal stuff a cd's worth of mp3s in a zip file. Prove thats music.

WildBillyT 12-20-2008 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by enRo (Post 525574)
RIAA will have to have an IP address in order to determine who the pirate is... then they can contact their ISP... using a proxy server uses another IP address, so how can they detect you in the first place? For all we know the IP address of the proxy server could be in Texas somewhere.

And if your ISP issues a dynamic IP, you can just release and renew to get a new one every day and further obfusecate your downloading.

sweetbmxrider 12-20-2008 12:39 PM

great. just great.

r0nin89 12-20-2008 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 525606)
And if your ISP issues a dynamic IP, you can just release and renew to get a new one every day and further obfusecate your downloading.

DSL does this. Cable is a satic IP. Not sure on this new fios stuff.

just an fyi

PolarBear 12-20-2008 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 525606)
And if your ISP issues a dynamic IP, you can just release and renew to get a new one every day and further obfusecate your downloading.

Generally when you renew you get the same IP. They have similar programs that give out a lease for a MAC address so when you renew you still get the same one
Quote:

Originally Posted by r0nin89 (Post 525611)
Cable is a satic IP.

Cable CAN have a static, but most of them still give out dynamic

PolarBear 12-20-2008 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r0nin89 (Post 525589)
Lol I just thought of some. Big deal stuff a cd's worth of mp3s in a zip file. Prove thats music.

Actually that is quite easy to prove still. If they suspect you are downloading illegal info they can sniff EVERY packet and look at what is contained. They are a lot smarter than you are :nod:

r0nin89 12-20-2008 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter (Post 525619)
Actually that is quite easy to prove still. If they suspect you are downloading illegal info they can sniff EVERY packet and look at what is contained. They are a lot smarter than you are :nod:

O I know but its not very hard to disguise it or layer the files so the title file is nothing pertaining to music. Your in no way wrong, what ever we the common user can think to do they've figured and planned for.

LTb1ow 12-20-2008 03:11 PM

So whats the deal with guys in college? I can't see a internet provider shutting down a college....

Or someone that gets a community access deal? coffee shop? I mean kinda out there, but I guess you could download a bit here and there.

And will they do it based on bandwidth you are using? Or just everyone that gets service will be scanned?

What about music you already have illegally?

r0nin89 12-20-2008 03:14 PM

If this gets serious I'll go to burger king, get lunch and d/l all my music there for the price of lunch.

PS: BK has wifi now if you didnt know lol...

ryanfx 12-20-2008 03:50 PM

progress
 
http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/19/r...r-music-pirac/

pound 12-20-2008 04:59 PM

This is the RIAA/MPIAA's way of circumventing the legal system in this country. Instead of suing individuals for damages in court where they actually have to do work and prove things, they are just going to tell your ISP that they suspect your IP address is distributing their content without a license and your ISP is supposed to send you a few warnings before cutting off your service. This has many negative implications the biggest of them being assumed guilt imo. I have no idea why an ISP would agree to such rubbish as it is a lot more work for them to play middle man and the DMCA relieves service providers from any liability resulting from the actions of their customers. Hopefully we get to find out what ISPs are involved in these back room deals.

Interestingly this exact idea was tried in the Europe by the European counterparts of the RIAA and MPIAA and was soundly trounced by the EU Parliament. Hopefully the same thing happens here.

WildBillyT 12-20-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Shownomercy (Post 525649)
So whats the deal with guys in college? I can't see a internet provider shutting down a college....

Or someone that gets a community access deal? coffee shop? I mean kinda out there, but I guess you could download a bit here and there.

And will they do it based on bandwidth you are using? Or just everyone that gets service will be scanned?

What about music you already have illegally?

No, but they will have the college shut off your account so you can't get on their network.

FIcamaroRE92 12-20-2008 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 525782)
No, but they will have the college shut off your account so you can't get on their network.

can they do that, since you pay the college $ xx,xxx amount/yr for tuition?


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