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BonzoHansen 01-23-2009 09:32 AM

Why do 4th gen guys continue to call a tail pan a berger panel? Not sure what Berger Chevy has to do with any of this. Berger did not invent black paint on tail panels.

Knipps 01-23-2009 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 537653)
Why do 4th gen guys continue to call a tail pan a berger panel? Not sure what Berger Chevy has to do with any of this. Berger did not invent black paint on tail panels.

You're really going to try and start that again? :lol:

BonzoHansen 01-23-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Knipps (Post 537733)
You're really going to try and start that again? :lol:

I consider it educating the Camaro owners who don't know Camaro history.

sweetbmxrider 01-23-2009 02:23 PM

:lol: ah geez bonzo

JL8Jeff 01-23-2009 06:22 PM

Silly kids! Don't even know that a blacked out tailpanel is from the old SS396 cars! :laugh: And the factory did not use gloss black, more of a satin black on the tailpanel and rockers I believe. I would just call it a custom tailpanel, and leave Berger out of it. I actually like the CAMARO letters with the inserts myself. I actually have the black tailpanel on my SS396, the Z28 emblem on my 69 Z28 and the CAMARO letters on my 2000 so I've got them all covered. :mrgreen: Your custom tailpanel came out good.

1994lt1 01-23-2009 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JL8Jeff (Post 537867)
Silly kids! Don't even know that a blacked out tailpanel is from the old SS396 cars! :laugh: And the factory did not use gloss black, more of a satin black on the tailpanel and rockers I believe. I would just call it a custom tailpanel, and leave Berger out of it. I actually like the CAMARO letters with the inserts myself. I actually have the black tailpanel on my SS396, the Z28 emblem on my 69 Z28 and the CAMARO letters on my 2000 so I've got them all covered. :mrgreen: Your custom tailpanel came out good.

Yup just a silly kid who has read 4 Camaro books and written 2 school papers on them... But you're right because I dont own a SS 396 I couldnt possibly know right? Well anyway, I installed it today and I must say it looks great. I will get pictures tomorrow.

Knipps 01-23-2009 08:29 PM

yes, take his light hearted comment personally. That's the best thing to do. :rollseye:

WildBillyT 01-25-2009 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 1994lt1 (Post 537899)
Yup just a silly kid who has read 4 Camaro books and written 2 school papers on them... But you're right because I dont own a SS 396 I couldnt possibly know right? Well anyway, I installed it today and I must say it looks great. I will get pictures tomorrow.

You really don't want to go toe to toe with Jeff on Camaro History LOL. He owns two (maybe 3) of the cars that are in those books. And he's right. "Berger panel" is not accurate to Camaro heritage. Or musclcar heritage for that matter. But you didn't coin the term!

Panel looks good though. You did a good job.

sweetbmxrider 01-26-2009 04:53 PM

its like sayin i'm gettin a stall converter. we're wrong and most of us get why. cheese

WildBillyT 01-26-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 538777)
its like sayin i'm gettin a stall converter. we're wrong and most of us get why. cheese

And yet you still make the mistake.

sweetbmxrider 01-26-2009 05:28 PM

its not a mistake. its easier to refer to it as a berger panel then whatever the hell the real name is. blame gmmg! people call ls1's 350's and i don't know why?

BonzoHansen 01-26-2009 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 538792)
its not a mistake. its easier to refer to it as a berger panel then whatever the hell the real name is. blame gmmg! people call ls1's 350's and i don't know why?

Because a 5.7L was a 350 for, I dunno, 30+ years?

The term is tail panel. You can choose to learn or continue to sound like an idiot.

ta350 01-26-2009 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 538795)
Because a 5.7L was a 350 for, I dunno, 30+ years?

The term is tail panel. You can choose to learn or continue to sound like an idiot.

Tail Panel is correct... its even in my estimating program with GM part #s lol

sweetbmxrider 01-26-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 538795)
Because a 5.7L was a 350 for, I dunno, 30+ years?

The term is tail panel. You can choose to learn or continue to sound like an idiot.

because the ls1 is, i dono, 345.7 c.i. :shrug: and i'm the idiot?

so if we call it a berger panel for 30+ years, that makes us correct? :rofl:
so be it!

LTb1ow 01-26-2009 06:51 PM

Repetition makes it true.

BonzoHansen 01-26-2009 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 538817)
because the ls1 is, i dono, 345.7 c.i. :shrug: and i'm the idiot?

so if we call it a berger panel for 30+ years, that makes us correct? :rofl:
so be it!

GM marketed it as a 5.7, never as a 346 or whatever. Don't be pissed because your wrong.

sweetbmxrider 01-26-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 538853)
GM marketed it as a 5.7, never as a 346 or whatever. Don't be pissed because your wrong.


gmmg built '02 camaros into Dick Harrell Edition Supercars exclusively for berger chevrolet. these cars have their tail panel painted a flat black with polished stainless camaro inserts. this is where the term came from. deal with it.

because gm marketed their ls1 in metric displacement makes calling it a 350 correct?

BonzoHansen 01-26-2009 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 538870)
gmmg built '02 camaros into Dick Harrell Edition Supercars exclusively for berger chevrolet. these cars have their tail panel painted a flat black with polished stainless camaro inserts. this is where the term came from. deal with it.

because gm marketed their ls1 in metric displacement makes calling it a 350 correct?

I did not say calling it a 350 was ok. I explained why it was a common MISTAKE.

sweetbmxrider 01-26-2009 07:17 PM

my point still stands with the dick harrell supercars.

BonzoHansen 01-26-2009 07:19 PM

Well, if you buy one then you too can have a 'berger panel'. Otherwise you have a black tail panel.

Although that is still illogical. I guess if Reedman puts their dealer plate/sticker on a tail panel then you'd have a Reedman Panel?

LTb1ow 01-26-2009 07:19 PM

Camaros have corvette engines!




lol

bad64chevelle 01-26-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 538875)
Well, if you buy one then you too can have a 'berger panel'. Otherwise you have a black tail panel.

Although that is still illogical. I guess if Reedman puts their dealer plate/sticker on a tail panel then you'd have a Reedman Panel?

**** I have a Lucas Tailgate.

The Camaro had a Patterson Panel.

sweetbmxrider 01-26-2009 07:30 PM

yup just like how 1st gen guys make replica yenkos and such i have a replica dick harrell supercar when it comes to tail panels.

BonzoHansen 01-26-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 538886)
yup just like how 1st gen guys make replica yenkos and such i have a replica dick harrell supercar when it comes to tail panels.

I don't condone cloning....its immoral and against nature...

LTb1ow 01-26-2009 07:31 PM

You guys sound like mustang guy arguing over which body kit is cooler.


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