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usp55 06-03-2009 01:28 PM

Attaching scoop to hood
 
71 base modle bird, have a 3-4" cowl metal scoop i want to put on my stock flat hood. only seen one other 2nd gen bird with it and i liked the look. all my funds are going to bills and fixing my camaro, but i have some free time so i want to get that mini project going seeing as i already have the scoop. (came with the car)

whats the best way to do it? dont have acess to weld it. Read about using rivits, fiberglass, and then finally some bondo to blend it in. dont really care if u like or dont like that idea or the scoop, lets not get into that. looking to see whats the best way to do it. its it was a formy or t/a i wouldnt touch a shaker hood.

BonzoHansen 06-03-2009 01:43 PM

Forget it. All those methods you listed will fail - if factory smooth is the look you are going for.

usp55 06-03-2009 01:46 PM

HAHA, well care to list a better way?

BonzoHansen 06-03-2009 01:58 PM

I guess a really good metal & body guy could weld it on. Or scrap it and buy a cowl hood. But you said no welding. How bubba-like can you accept for a hood on your car? It's gonna look like crap or race 'purpose built' only. What is the look you are going for? Nice or fabricated race?

maroman88 06-03-2009 01:58 PM

there really isnt one.... the methods u mentioned will always end up cracking sooner or later

usp55 06-03-2009 02:35 PM

Yea i looked to just buy a full on cowl hood but havent found anyone that makes them for a 2nd gen bird.

BonzoHansen 06-03-2009 02:51 PM

That is because you can get nice factory hood on birds. 2nd gen Camaros never really got cool hoods. Just bolt on nonsense 78-81.

Keep your eye our for a good formula hood.

unstable bob gable 06-03-2009 03:49 PM

The following manfs all list cowl hoods for 2nd gen 'boids:

http://www.vfnfiberglass.com/site.htm

http://www.glasstek.com/

http://www.usbodysource.com/

1QWIKBIRD 06-03-2009 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unstable bob gable (Post 597034)
The following manfs all list cowl hoods for 2nd gen 'boids:

http://www.vfnfiberglass.com/site.htm

http://www.glasstek.com/

http://www.usbodysource.com/

And if you go fiberglass.....don't go for the cheap seats. My buddy bought a fiberglass cowl hood for his 73 Camaro from usbodysource and it is a pile of pooh. Go for glasstek or vfn or maybe hardwood. I have a bolt-on Glasstek on my 70 Nova (4" cowl) and it fit great right out of the box and needed only minimal prep. The $$$$ you save on the initial purchase will more than likely be spent 3x on the prep and getting it to fit and look good.

Chris

BonzoHansen 06-03-2009 06:44 PM

Go Pontiac!

http://www.firebirdgallery.com/2nd%2...ges/73fr11.jpg

http://www.firebirdgallery.com/2nd%2...ges/70fr14.jpg

bubba428 06-03-2009 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 596998)
I guess a really good metal & body guy could weld it on. Or scrap it and buy a cowl hood. But you said no welding. How bubba-like can you accept for a hood on your car? It's gonna look like crap or race 'purpose built' only. What is the look you are going for? Nice or fabricated race?

hey now dbag, i put a cowl on on my bird not a scoop

BonzoHansen 06-03-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubba428 (Post 597130)
he now dbag, i put a cowl on on my bird not a scoop

You are not the only bubba in the world!

LTb1ow 06-03-2009 09:23 PM

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NastyEllEssWon 06-04-2009 01:03 AM

yeah just be careful with the tape. ITS PERMANENT!!!!



says so on the package :rofl::nod::lol:

69BirdX 06-04-2009 06:12 AM

ive seen bolted on and fiberglass work. but the fiberglass as to be perfect

usp55 06-05-2009 09:42 AM

just find me this hood -

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...IMG_8702_s.jpg
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...p55/6338_1.jpg

WildBillyT 06-05-2009 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1QWIKBIRD (Post 597126)
And if you go fiberglass.....don't go for the cheap seats. My buddy bought a fiberglass cowl hood for his 73 Camaro from usbodysource and it is a pile of pooh. Go for glasstek or vfn or maybe hardwood. I have a bolt-on Glasstek on my 70 Nova (4" cowl) and it fit great right out of the box and needed only minimal prep. The $$$$ you save on the initial purchase will more than likely be spent 3x on the prep and getting it to fit and look good.

Chris

Truer words have never been spoken in this case.

Unlimited products also peddles ****. Not **** as in flimsy, **** as in the hood isn't even "true" or "square". Very cheap as far as hoods go and it shows.

jims69camaro 06-05-2009 12:53 PM

i wonder why no one asked: is the cowl metal? are we talking about a metal hood?

if those two are affirmative, then the only way to get the job done is to weld. either buy yourself a welder and start practicing or take an auto body class at the vo-tech. you will not be happy with any other attachment - maybe one of the newer epoxies, but i wouldn't even consider anything else.

usp55 06-05-2009 01:34 PM

its a metal scoop/metal factory hood

yea i have been researching the best way to do it. Been to a bunch of "hot rod" forums and have come across some very very stong and proven 2 part slow setting metal expoxies. Then another expoxy goes over both metal that is alittle more flexible that give the bondo/paint/etc time to flex alittle to reduce any cracking. i have a few products to pick from and the one thats keeps coming up on the other forums of a product called "lords"

jraney 06-06-2009 06:57 AM

Where did you find a steel cowl scoop? I would weld it in 1" long welds, but only every 4 inches and moving from onside to another to help reduce warpage and finish it off with USC All Meteal Body Filler, Eastwood sells this product. Another way and this would depend on how the edge where it meets the hood is formed. If the flange is bent under towards the inside of the scoop, I would use an epoxy and rivets and finish it off with the All Metal. Leading would be another option but not sure how that would hold up to any flexing.

usp55 06-06-2009 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jraney (Post 598263)
Where did you find a steel cowl scoop? I would weld it in 1" long welds, but only every 4 inches and moving from onside to another to help reduce warpage and finish it off with USC All Meteal Body Filler, Eastwood sells this product. Another way and this would depend on how the edge where it meets the hood is formed. If the flange is bent under towards the inside of the scoop, I would use an epoxy and rivets and finish it off with the All Metal. Leading would be another option but not sure how that would hold up to any flexing.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

mine came with the car from the previous owner but this is the same thing


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