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emolineaux 07-28-2009 12:24 PM

LS1 Balancer tool
 
im just about halfway done the reinstall of everything on my z and i was wondering if anyone had a tool to install the balancer and would be willing to either stop by for a little bit so i can use it or let me borrow it to get the job done

LTb1ow 07-28-2009 12:24 PM

KirkEvil has one.

emolineaux 07-28-2009 12:31 PM

thanks ill shoot him a pm

Saitin 07-28-2009 02:41 PM

The harmonic balancer that needs to be pressed on?
If so you use the old bolt and torq it to 200 something lbs then remove it and put the new bolt in and trq it to 60ish, I don't know the exact numbers but that is what the chilton book said to do and it worked great for me.

Ask Ron aka 98taDriver he has the specifics.

emolineaux 07-28-2009 04:09 PM

well i tried but the stock bolt seemed a little to short with the balancer on the end of the crank(couldnt catch and threads) but yea ive found alot of sites on the specs plus i have the set of GM service manuals for the 98 f bodys. i figured anyway while its off that im just going to order and underdrive pulley anyway so that should be here thursday or friday.

1QWIKBIRD 07-28-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by emolineaux (Post 620224)
well i tried but the stock bolt seemed a little to short with the balancer on the end of the crank(couldnt catch and threads) but yea ive found alot of sites on the specs plus i have the set of GM service manuals for the 98 f bodys. i figured anyway while its off that im just going to order and underdrive pulley anyway so that should be here thursday or friday.

I have a tool to install the balancer. I bought it off LS1tech and it works like a charm, no chance to damage threads in the snout of the crank shaft or any of that. When you are ready for it, let me know. I work in Mt. Holly and live in Hamilton, so I could drop it off after work one day.

Here's a link to the tool I have....

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/tools-...tool-pics.html

Chris

NastyEllEssWon 07-28-2009 10:22 PM

if you cant catch threads with the stock bolt bang on it with a rubber mallet or dead blow to press it in a bit.

PolarBear 07-28-2009 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 620411)
if you cant catch threads with the stock bolt bang on it with a rubber mallet or dead blow to press it in a bit.

Ya with a SBC you need to get it on a bit further or you can pull the threads out of the snout, soulds like LSx is similar

Here's a link to the tool I have....

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/tools-...tool-pics.html

I saw that before, looks nice for a "home made" tool too

V 07-29-2009 09:20 AM

i rented a normal balancer install tool from autozone...
didnt work, so i cut up and modified the tool to work properly.
obviously i could never return it then,... was only like 35 bucks if that and now ill always have one

Whiplash Performance 07-29-2009 12:00 PM

Don't order the Comp Cams one from summit, it wont work, I learned the hard way after getting it over nighted to me.

emolineaux 07-29-2009 04:11 PM

chris (1QWIKBIRD) is letting me borrow his to install my new balancer

BarneyMobile 07-29-2009 04:39 PM

I used a BFH and an impact socket. Works like a charm and no chance of damaging threads.

1QWIKBIRD 07-29-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BarneyMobile (Post 620697)
I used a BFH and an impact socket. Works like a charm and no chance of damaging threads.

With the right tools there's no chance of damaging threads either and you don't beat on the thrust bearing. I wouldn't ever try using the old bolt to pull it on, that's asking to strip the threads in the snout of the crank.

Chris

BonzoHansen 07-29-2009 05:40 PM

BFH = potential bearing issues. That is why they make install tools.

98tadriver 07-29-2009 05:56 PM

put the balancer in the oven for like 10 mins on 250* it will expand the hub and it will go on the crank. then with a wooden block and a hammer, beat it on there, then torque according to specs. NEVER had any problems

NastyEllEssWon 07-29-2009 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 620722)
BFH = potential bearing issues. That is why they make install tools.




x2. a dead blow or rubber mallet is the way to go on this one.

BonzoHansen 07-29-2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 620781)
x2. a dead blow or rubber mallet is the way to go on this one.

? are you agreeing or disagreeing. those are not balancer install tools

NastyEllEssWon 07-29-2009 08:32 PM

rubber mallets and dead blows are a lot softer than a real hammer.....ive pounded plenty of balencers with rubber mallets and never had a problem

BonzoHansen 07-29-2009 08:36 PM

as Pops used to say there is a right way a wrong way and my way. no professional engine builder I've ever spoken to smacks a balancer on with a hammer. but many balancers have been installed in that manner w/o incident. it's wrong, but if nothing goes wrong oh well.

WildBillyT 07-29-2009 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 620796)
as Pops used to say there is a right way a wrong way and my way. no professional engine builder I've ever spoken to smacks a balancer on with a hammer. but many balancers have been installed in that manner w/o incident. it's wrong, but if nothing goes wrong oh well.

Yeah, same deal with suspension bushings and a BFH. Use the right tool for the job unless you run out of options.

emolineaux 08-02-2009 05:55 PM

ill tell ya what. that blancer installer that chris (1QWIKBIRD) dropped off worked like a charm. balancer went right on.


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