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PlanDefeat 08-22-2009 11:56 AM

APS In Ruins....
 
APS is another company that we must protect ourselves from... Just check out Peter@APS comments to the thread
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forced...g-out-aps.html

Squirrel 08-22-2009 12:15 PM

only read like first 5 posts, but probably the reason he sells ****** turbos with a huge markup is to make some of his R&D money back, not the first or last time someone will do that

BonzoHansen 08-22-2009 03:33 PM

BFD. It's easy to avoid a company that isn't making the parts anymore, lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RooRnZ28
wow, now we know why they were able to sell these kits for ~$4500.... SHIPPED!

It's funny people whining about china produced crap - that is how it works, someone designs something, they have it made, box it & sell it. To keep something in the range people will buy that cut corners, like china foundries. Americans, including many car owners are often cheap bastards. You get what you pay for. LOL

This guy nailed it:

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellbents10
You want a twin turbo kit that is top notch with manifolds made in AMERICA?

Then you will need to pay an well grounded AMERICAN business about 13-15k to send you a kit.

I said it right off the bat..."For the price it has to be CHINA!!!!

For under 6-8k to get a complete well rounded turbo kit you need one of two things off the top of my head.

One being a small unstable operation. The other being a bigger more stable operation getting parts out sourced from China or the like.

The best part is the backyard wrenchers thinking they can now do it themselves. Hee hee.

This reminds me of the whining people do about DSE's stuff. They do all the R&D on their track proven parts, do manufacturing in the US and then price the product accordingly. Then people whine about "it doesn't cost that much to make that. I can get it on eBay for half that". Good luck with the eBay knock off control arms that are half price with poor quality welds. If the R&D $$ and quality manufacturing $$ is not recouped in the price then no one is gonna do any R&D.

Go ask SJ Sleeper how he likes offshore crap.

PlanDefeat 08-22-2009 05:12 PM

i'm just gonna save up for the procharger kit... they seem much more reliable to other options such as sts which imo looks wrong with the one exhaust pipe out the rear

LTb1ow 08-22-2009 05:21 PM

Bahah this is an awesome thread...

What a dumb ass sponsor...

sweetbmxrider 08-22-2009 06:35 PM

whats wrong with chinese turbos?

LTb1ow 08-22-2009 06:45 PM

Maybe people don't like moo sho pork with white rice in their turbos?

BonzoHansen 08-22-2009 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise (Post 628670)
Bahah this is an awesome thread...

What a dumb ass sponsor...

All true :-P

NJ Torque 08-22-2009 08:45 PM

So shady...

NastyEllEssWon 08-22-2009 09:23 PM

thats an awesome thread...id like to get my hands on one of those intercoolers though :nod:

NJ Torque 08-22-2009 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 628771)
thats an awesome thread...id like to get my hands on one of those intercoolers though :nod:


I had a line on a full kit...

WildBillyT 08-22-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 628646)
BFD. It's easy to avoid a company that isn't making the parts anymore, lol.


It's funny people whining about china produced crap - that is how it works, someone designs something, they have it made, box it & sell it. To keep something in the range people will buy that cut corners, like china foundries. Americans, including many car owners are often cheap bastards. You get what you pay for. LOL

This guy nailed it:


The best part is the backyard wrenchers thinking they can now do it themselves. Hee hee.

This reminds me of the whining people do about DSE's stuff. They do all the R&D on their track proven parts, do manufacturing in the US and then price the product accordingly. Then people whine about "it doesn't cost that much to make that. I can get it on eBay for half that". Good luck with the eBay knock off control arms that are half price with poor quality welds. If the R&D $$ and quality manufacturing $$ is not recouped in the price then no one is gonna do any R&D.

Go ask SJ Sleeper how he likes offshore crap.

ABSOLUTELY. You get what you pay for. Want to cheap out and go imported on something? Then you run the risk of bad quality.

sweetbmxrider 08-23-2009 09:17 AM

but there are so many asain cars out there that come stock with turbos? its not like they can't build good ones?

LTb1ow 08-23-2009 09:17 AM

And you can go buy crappy ones too...

You get what you pay for in most cases...

sweetbmxrider 08-23-2009 09:25 AM

yes very true. its not like the chinese can't build good turbos, its just aps supplies ****** ones

LTb1ow 08-23-2009 09:27 AM

Tis business.... best way to only spend this much money but sell it for this much.. make monies.

BonzoHansen 08-23-2009 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 628864)
but there are so many asain cars out there that come stock with turbos? its not like they can't build good ones?

Why are you confusing cheap china ripoff aftermarket parts with Japanese OE spec manufacturing quality?

It's all about cost.

sweetbmxrider 08-23-2009 09:49 AM

ya nevermind i read the thread

LTb1ow 08-23-2009 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 628885)
ya nevermind i read the thread

Reading ftw.

sweetbmxrider 08-23-2009 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise (Post 628886)
Reading ftw.

i had a teacher who used to say that, then i keyed her car :lol:

LTb1ow 08-23-2009 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 628889)
i had a teacher who used to say that, then i keyed her car :lol:

You had a teacher who talked in acronyms?

sweetbmxrider 08-23-2009 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise (Post 628891)
You had a teacher who talked in acronyms?

yup, couldn't pass that class

transmaro93 08-23-2009 10:41 AM

wait you coulnt pass a class... so you keyed her car... thats f-ed up dude... when i was failing senior year cause i didnt give a crap i knew it was my fault haha... as for the chinese thing... ill try to avoid cheap knock off stuff as much as possible... heres an example... from my machine shop.. guy built his own engine... used a cheaper chinese forged crank... he used a crappy torque wrench and over tightened the rod bolts... and spun a few bearings and ended up fracturing the crank... now in alot of cases cranks can be fixed but becuase this was a chinese crank the place that fixes them said it would never work because the metal they use is poor quality and the repair wouldnt hold for very long.... you get what you pay for.....

LTb1ow 08-23-2009 10:45 AM

http://thumbnails.hulu.com/7/587/143...6bFJuuokpA.jpg

NastyEllEssWon 08-23-2009 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 628889)
i had a teacher who used to say that, then i keyed her car :lol:




only girls mess with anothers persons car :nod: especially keying it


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