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ShitOnWheels 09-01-2009 03:41 PM

Guess who's pregnant again (not me)....
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/20...number_19.html

Not sure whether to be disgusted that they are still going, or annoyed that they have very little problems getting pregnant. Can they give one or two to us? lol

Mike 09-01-2009 03:45 PM

wow the oldest kid is having a baby right before the moms latest.....her grandchild will be older than the youngest child

enRo 09-01-2009 04:05 PM

http://feministphilosophers.files.wo...664e6841fa.jpg

79CamaroDiva 09-01-2009 04:51 PM

good grief.. if all of their kids even have 5 kids (which doesn't seem to be a terrible estimate coming from a family of 19+), they will be responsible for 95 grandchildren! 95!! I don't want to get into overpopulation like some of those comments, but i know my grandmother has a hard time getting the names of 7 of us right...

Tru2Chevy 09-01-2009 04:57 PM

Yea, that's just nuts. I'm betting that at least a few of the kids will rebel when they get older though.

- Justin

Mike 09-01-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva (Post 631700)
good grief.. if all of their kids even have 5 kids (which doesn't seem to be a terrible estimate coming from a family of 19+), they will be responsible for 95 grandchildren! 95!! I don't want to get into overpopulation like some of those comments, but i know my grandmother has a hard time getting the names of 7 of us right...

how many names are actually in one of those baby books? :shock:

Blacdout96 09-01-2009 09:28 PM

someone castrate the husband before they bring more stupidity in this world. I think things like this should be illegal, weither they can afford it or not, to me it's just not right.

Mike 09-01-2009 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 631797)
someone castrate the husband before they bring more stupidity in this world. I think things like this should be illegal, weither they can afford it or not, to me it's just not right.

if they care for them all, pay taxes for them all, raise them all well, and they all become productive members of society, who cares?

r0nin89 09-01-2009 09:46 PM

Send em to China. I bet the government would have a **** fit lol. They are technically not suppose to have more than one kid or some shat like that there.

Blacdout96 09-01-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 631800)
if they care for them all, pay taxes for them all, raise them all well, and they all become productive members of society, who cares?

Oh ****, forgot to put this at the end of my post

IMO!!!!

Oops, too late, someone already had to put their two cents into why they think I'm wrong.

Mike 09-01-2009 10:20 PM

didnt say your opinion was wrong, i said WHO CARES, no reason to worry about it unless they start becoming leaches or scumbags

ib4200 09-02-2009 12:31 AM

anyone ever see idiocracy? this is how it starts out...

r0nin89 09-02-2009 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ib4200 (Post 631837)
anyone ever see idiocracy? this is how it starts out...

go away I'm batin...

ShitOnWheels 09-02-2009 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 631818)
didnt say your opinion was wrong, i said WHO CARES, no reason to worry about it unless they start becoming leaches or scumbags

We need to care. If each of these 19 kids has 2 kids, that's 38 kids...and each of those has 2 kids...well, population growth gets out of control after 2 generations...WAAAAY above the replenishment and minimal growth rate (I've read having 2 children replenishes and 3 allows for minimal growth). When all these kids are looking for food, homes, jobs, etc, they flood the market.

Sure, they may be law abiding, hard working citizens, but think of how much food they need (even if thew grow most of it, it isn't completely sustainable, and some may not want to grow their own later on), water they drink, jobs they'll need, clothes they wear (again, even if they make a lot and buy used, it's not fool proof and they'll need to buy new).

And add to that healthcare costs, Medicare when they are retired, SS if it's even around then...it adds up.

bubba428 09-02-2009 06:52 AM

but also think of all the people that don't have any kids, can't, or die before they get the chance. I'm sure there's 9 couples out there that fit that category.

Blacdout96 09-02-2009 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ****OnWheels (Post 631876)
We need to care. If each of these 19 kids has 2 kids, that's 38 kids...and each of those has 2 kids...well, population growth gets out of control after 2 generations...WAAAAY above the replenishment and minimal growth rate (I've read having 2 children replenishes and 3 allows for minimal growth). When all these kids are looking for food, homes, jobs, etc, they flood the market.

Sure, they may be law abiding, hard working citizens, but think of how much food they need (even if thew grow most of it, it isn't completely sustainable, and some may not want to grow their own later on), water they drink, jobs they'll need, clothes they wear (again, even if they make a lot and buy used, it's not fool proof and they'll need to buy new).

And add to that healthcare costs, Medicare when they are retired, SS if it's even around then...it adds up.

Hit the nail right on the head.

Mike 09-02-2009 07:56 AM

oh well, im more concerned with the 13-15 year old un-married city girls popping out welfare babies with no other purpose in life than to be a deduction and follow "dad" into the gangs

NastyEllEssWon 09-02-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ****OnWheels (Post 631876)
We need to care. If each of these 19 kids has 2 kids, that's 38 kids...and each of those has 2 kids...well, population growth gets out of control after 2 generations...WAAAAY above the replenishment and minimal growth rate (I've read having 2 children replenishes and 3 allows for minimal growth). When all these kids are looking for food, homes, jobs, etc, they flood the market.

Sure, they may be law abiding, hard working citizens, but think of how much food they need (even if thew grow most of it, it isn't completely sustainable, and some may not want to grow their own later on), water they drink, jobs they'll need, clothes they wear (again, even if they make a lot and buy used, it's not fool proof and they'll need to buy new).

And add to that healthcare costs, Medicare when they are retired, SS if it's even around then...it adds up.





well considering the fact that they built their own house themselves....grow some of the food they eat and the fact that the dad had some type of company left to him where they have enough money to support it, i say whatever...more power to them.


ive seen lots worse. like mike said. the girl who realizes she had a kid at 13, sits on welfare, hits 16 when her welfare runs out and only gets pregnant to keep the welfare going.....trust me. ive seen this tons. 25 year old girls with 4 or 5 kids. :nod:

Lt1_8U 09-02-2009 03:11 PM

19 kids...

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x..._a_hallway.jpg

ShitOnWheels 09-02-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428 (Post 631878)
but also think of all the people that don't have any kids, can't, or die before they get the chance. I'm sure there's 9 couples out there that fit that category.

I'm pretty sure the 3 kids for minimal growth helps to account for those who can't, won't, or die before they do have kids. Hence why it's 3 and not just 2.

ShitOnWheels 09-02-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 631894)
oh well, im more concerned with the 13-15 year old un-married city girls popping out welfare babies with no other purpose in life than to be a deduction and follow "dad" into the gangs

Very true. I am much more concerned with that. They are hurting us now. But when these 19 hit the age for medicare, you add an extra burden. And if medicare is still around when the next generation get there, now you've quadrupled the burden on the system. So it either affects us now (the welfare families) or later (the way-too-many-kids-in-one-family families). Take your pick (I'd rather it affect us now, since we can make regulations that state they need to get jobs and get off welfare eventually...assuming states would do that).

ShitOnWheels 09-02-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 632030)
well considering the fact that they built their own house themselves....grow some of the food they eat and the fact that the dad had some type of company left to him where they have enough money to support it, i say whatever...more power to them.


ive seen lots worse. like mike said. the girl who realizes she had a kid at 13, sits on welfare, hits 16 when her welfare runs out and only gets pregnant to keep the welfare going.....trust me. ive seen this tons. 25 year old girls with 4 or 5 kids. :nod:

I understand they built their own house, grow their own food, make their own clothes, buy used, etc. But they can't be doing that for EVERYTHING. Some things they buy have to be new. Not all food can be grown/raised on their own. It still eats at our resources faster than it would if they only had 2, 3, even 5. :shrug:

What about heating fuel? Whether it's gas, oil, or wood (or some other method), I"m pretty sure it'll go faster with such a large family (and large house to fit the familiy), it depletes the resources.

Frosty 09-02-2009 03:27 PM

So some of you think we should create a law because of ONE family that went overboard? They receive no government/public assistance....so who cares? Like Mike said, we should be worried about Peggy Sue and Shaniqua popping out 3 kids with 3 different baby daddies...

With the amount of people in this country do you really think this example is going to make the tiniest bit of difference in social programs when they reach that age? Not a chance.

I didn't realize this country was Communist China limiting people's rights and freedoms. Then again if we don't wake the F up that's where we're heading.

Blacdout96 09-02-2009 03:31 PM

Listen, it's great they were able to raise them without much financial strain, but they could of done better by adopting 16 kids or what not. there are many children without parents, and these two could of adopted them. It's like going to ethiopia and a fat person eating a double quarter pounder with cheese infront of starving people, that could of been better used to those who need then those who already have.

Frosty 09-02-2009 03:39 PM

It's called personal rights and freedoms, they're under absolutely no obligation to adopt a single kid. They have every right to make their family as big as they want provided they can care for them.

You can make a moral argument however you can always legislate morality. They did nothing wrong from a legal standpoint. I certainly wouldn't want that many kids...hell I'm not having ANY however if they can care for them and give each kid the attention and resources they need to succeed in life who am I or anyone else to say they can't or shouldn't have that many kids?


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