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procamaroz28 12-11-2009 07:18 PM

questions for nj hangun owners...
 
ok this may be some stupid questions but im not too familiar w/ how this works...
i have my nj firearms purchases id which basically allows to purchase rifles and shotguns but im looking to buy a glock 17. so i know i gotta go thru the whole process again to get a permit for that handgun, but how exactly do i do that do i buy first and wait for the id or get the id then buy any one with in the time period??

procamaroz28 12-11-2009 07:19 PM

thanks for any help i can get!

LTb1ow 12-11-2009 07:22 PM

Gotta be 21, and then the same deal as the fire arm ID card. Go to police station, fill out paper work, pay fees, and I think you need letters of recommendation.

procamaroz28 12-11-2009 07:34 PM

yes i do meet the age requirement... but when do i actually purchase? before and wait to pick up??, or after within a certain time period??

Tsar 12-11-2009 09:19 PM

1. Go to the police station
2. Ask for paperwork for handgun permit.
3. fill it out and give it back
4. Pay fees
5. Wait until you get old (took me 4 or 5 months)
6. Get fingerprinted.
7. Get your Permit
8. Go to the gun store
9. Show them your permit
10. Play it guns
11. Buy one (within 90 days of receiving your permit)
12. ???
13. Profit.

Anything else?

Tsar 12-11-2009 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LTs1ow (Post 663689)
Gotta be 21, and then the same deal as the fire arm ID card. Go to police station, fill out paper work, pay fees, and I think you need letters of recommendation.

No, this isn't college admissions office, no one wants to read that crap. But they will talk to your neighbors and call your references.

LTb1ow 12-11-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar (Post 663769)
No, this isn't college admissions office, no one wants to read that crap. But they will talk to your neighbors and call your references.

Yea,my bad meant you need good references to say you are a sane person etc.

procamaroz28 12-11-2009 10:17 PM

ok, makes sense so gotta buy within 90 days of receiving the permit... thats all i needed to know...

EchoMirage 12-11-2009 10:51 PM

be prepared to wait anywhere from 1-3 months, and youre now limited to 1 gun a month. you can always put a deposit on whatever gun you want to hold it, then get the paperwork. but paperwork must come first.

procamaroz28 12-12-2009 12:08 AM

true.. 1 gun a month is fine for me... and how would it work if i want to purchase from budsgunshop.com ???? they say they send the item to a local dealer near me so is everything handled thru the local dealer???

bad64chevelle 12-12-2009 12:36 AM

if you set it up through a website it needs to go through an FFL or a local dealer. Make sure your local dealer tells you what they want either written on the box, or know approx. when it will be coming in, a way to contact you, etc.

EchoMirage 12-12-2009 08:09 AM

itll cost extra to do it through FFLs

Z28 Heritage 12-12-2009 08:22 AM

Off topic kinda but can you own a fully auto AR15 in New Jersey?

Tsar 12-12-2009 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by EchoMirage (Post 663776)
be prepared to wait anywhere from 1-3 months, and youre now limited to 1 gun a month. you can always put a deposit on whatever gun you want to hold it, then get the paperwork. but paperwork must come first.

That's kinda a waste, imo. Once you have the paperwork it takes 10 minutes to walk out of the store with a handgun. Or if by some miracle they don't have it, you will have it the next day because they have to overnight it. So I don't really see a point in giving them a deposit. :shrug:


As for buying online. You have to make arrangements with your local FFL. Then buy the gun, and ship it to them. Local FFL will decide on how much they will want to charge you to transfer you the weapon and then you are all done. Usually it's 50ish bucks I think. But it varies.

bad64chevelle 12-12-2009 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 92camarodude (Post 663844)
Off topic kinda but can you own a fully auto AR15 in New Jersey?

you cant

DevilDougWS6 12-12-2009 11:09 AM

actually you CAN own a fully automatic weapon in NJ. BUT you need a class III permit which is hard to obtain, plus I believe you have to pay to hold on to it. It is basically a permit to buy and sell firearms to the public, so you would only need it if you intend to open a shop.

NastyEllEssWon 12-12-2009 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DevilDougWS6 (Post 663866)
actually you CAN own a fully automatic weapon in NJ. BUT you need a class III permit which is hard to obtain, plus I believe you have to pay to hold on to it. It is basically a permit to buy and sell firearms to the public, so you would only need it if you intend to open a shop.






i think he meant that the 17 year old kid cant....not just anyone...like kind of YOU cant :wink:

r0nin89 12-12-2009 02:40 PM

Yeah you need a valid reason to get a class III. Such as a gun shop owner, gunsmith, tactical training facility, something of that sort.

NJ doesnt allow fully auto weapons to typical owners or guns with clips exceeding 20 rounds I believe it is.

PolarBear 12-12-2009 03:33 PM

What about registering a firearm from another state? Once I get my house in NJ I will have to register my firearm. Anyone know what I will need to do? Then after that I may want to purchase again, do I have to go through all the crap like someone who has never owned a firearm?

r0nin89 12-12-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PolarBear (Post 663923)
What about registering a firearm from another state? Once I get my house in NJ I will have to register my firearm. Anyone know what I will need to do? Then after that I may want to purchase again, do I have to go through all the crap like someone who has never owned a firearm?

Nj is an optional registration state. Technically you dont have to register your firearms if they are brought from another state, purchased in another state, or hand me downs/gifts.

PolarBear 12-12-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by r0nin89 (Post 663924)
brought from another state, purchased in another state, or hand me downs/gifts.

Thats interesting, so if I want to purchase in NJ I have to get all the permits and whatnot but if I have my grandfather buy something for me in PA I can bring over the state border?

Also if NJ is a reg optional, what is the big deal about having the smaller length barrel and collapsable stock on a weapon like the AR15? What the state doesnt know wont hurt them then? Or does the registration only apply to handguns?

I should "stock uop" before I move back to NJ lol

procamaroz28 12-12-2009 06:34 PM

i think ar 15's cant have more than a 15 rd clip in nj and 16" barrel tops and no modifications and fixed stock...

and i did hear also if its bought and registered in another state u dont have to reregister in this state...

r0nin89 12-12-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PolarBear (Post 663934)
Thats interesting, so if I want to purchase in NJ I have to get all the permits and whatnot but if I have my grandfather buy something for me in PA I can bring over the state border?

Also if NJ is a reg optional, what is the big deal about having the smaller length barrel and collapsable stock on a weapon like the AR15? What the state doesnt know wont hurt them then? Or does the registration only apply to handguns?

I should "stock uop" before I move back to NJ lol

You still need to be a registered firearms owner in NJ to transport guns and use them on state property like firing ranges and hunting reserves. The collapsible stock is just a dumb NJ rule. And I asked my friend who works at Brick Armory, 10rd mag in a rifle is the limit, 6 in a shotgun, 3 in a hunting weapon, handgun is unlimited I believe.

As far as the "what they dont know wont hurt them" theory, yes basically. Its the same principal as no cats on a car, or no emissions, or building without a permit. Its all fine and dandy until you get caught and when you get caught violating firearms laws they shove it up ur ass good.

Not having cats on your car never killed anyone (unless your al gore or think like him) but a 30rd mag may very well kill 20 more people than had to die at the hands of sum nut job is the thinking behind it.

procamaroz28 12-12-2009 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r0nin89 (Post 664015)
Y10rd mag in a rifle is the limit.

is this recent?? could swore it was 15 limit..

LTb1ow 12-12-2009 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by procamaroz28 (Post 664043)
is this recent?? could swore it was 15 limit..

Ten, almost 100%.


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