Brakes
 

I am not good at them, but both my cars need new ones.

Saturn:
Needs pads and rotors and a flush. Problem is, the rears are drums. Should I tackle it myself or send it to a Mieneke? Also, last time I did a flush on my friends car, it didn't come out right as the pedal was really mushy. I don't think I bled the brakes in the correct order though. It is RR, RL, FR, FL? I did RR, FL, RL, FR which was more of a diagonal kind of deal.

Camaro:
Getting CTS-v calipers up front and new brake lines. Should be straight forward I assume. Although I looked at my current pads last week, and they are missing a clip on either side (which explains the super annoying swishing sound that I've been hearing as I drive) but I ask, will the new pads come with clips? They aren't pictured on the website. Also, what is the pin kit for with the new calipers? I ordered them anyway cause I was told I need them.

Thanks in advance guys.

start the bleeding on the brake furthest from the master cylinder and work your way towards it.

I actually heard last year a guy from SSBC interviewed and asked about the order of bleeding. Apparently you can do any order....they just suggest furthest from the master to closest as a method of remembering which ones you've done.

I just looked up Stoptech's how-to online and it I think my problem was I left the bleeder open too long. It says to open it for 1 second spurts. I think I can do that.

Thanks Paul.

The do it from the farthest is so that you bleed out the bubbles farthest away from the master.

But not all cars go that way. We used to have a Wagner/Raybestos book that actually had the correct specific way of bleeding brakes depending on the car.
Cars with ABS systems also play tricks on you. You can get air in the ABS unit, and that is a PITA to bleed unless you have the correct scan tool that can cycle the system.

do shops have tools that bleed the brakes more effectively, like a power steering flushing system? Or do they do it conventionally like I would?

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yes most shops have an air powered vacuum bleeder...you can get the same effect with this



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Yeah they use shop air to suck the fluid out from the bleeder. Its pretty cool.

I have one of those mightyvacs, it is garbage. It didn't work.

I think I may have a shop do the Saturn. Too much for me to experiment with. Can't afford to experiment with the daily driver.

The Camaro is getting new lines and calipers so I'm gonna try it first myself, but if it doesn't come out good, I think I'm gonna have a shop redo it. I hate brakes. This is all too complicated for me.

lol theres no shame in wanting it done right the first time. im curious as to why you dont like your mityvac, ive had mine for about 5 years and it works great for getting majority of the bubbles out quick, then do one stomp of the pedal the old fashioned way and its wonderful...beats an afternoon pumping pedals :nod:

I must have not set it up correctly because it did work at all for me. Maybe I'll find someone local with one that can show me how to work it. I may have thrown it out though...

did some research and am buying this. I'm currently in bed so I'm not getting up to find my credit card. This should save me some money. It's about 60 dollars and should save me labor costs which is exciting. I'm sure its good to have around too.

I have one, and love it.

Bill- I don't need speedbleeders in conjunction with this right?

Nope.

Don't forget to test the system to make sure it holds pressure with just air at first.

I didn't know that. I'm hoping it comes with instructions. I also don't know if I have to bleed the ABS unit seperately but I'll figure that out when the time comes. I'll likely not be doing it until next week when all the parts come in. I saw EchoMirage post up somewhere about bleeding ABS unit but I lost the link. Oh well.

"I'm currently in bed so I'm not getting up to find my credit card"... thanks for the laugh!

Jake, after you do yours you want to do mine? I have pads and rotors waiting to go on :lol:

Thanks! For too long my wit has gone unnoticed!
Actually, its not a bad idea. We can do it together, and use the pump to bleed the brakes. It shouldn't take too long.

you dont have to bleed the brakes unless you undo a line or caliper hose

ya and brake flushing is just silly. brake fluid shouldn't get contaminated unless something is doing just that.

Actually, brake fluid can get cooked under aggressive driving. I drive aggressively, thus I will bleed my brakes!

lol we're talking to knipps :nod:

:wavey:

knipps doesnt need bleeding even, i told him already lol