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Brendan713 07-21-2010 12:09 PM

uhh Confusion?
 
I am a little unsure if i am reading this correctly but the 89 TTA with a 3.8L V6 was the fastest third gen produced or was it the GTA? could some one be so nice to clarify/explain it?



The fastest 3rd generation Trans Am was the 1989 20th Anniversary Turbo Trans Am. It was selected to pace the 1989 Indianapolis 500, and Pontiac marketed a pace car replica, designating all 20th Anniversary cars as such.
1989 20th Anniversary Turbo Trans Am T-Top(TTA)

The 20th Anniversary Turbo Trans Am Indianapolis 500 pace car replica, (TTA for short), was based on the GTA, but had a high pressure turbocharged and intercooled Buick 3.8L V6, originally developed for the Buick Regal Grand National. 1,555 TTA's were produced, including 39 hardtops and 3 convertibles. The TTA was the quickest Trans Am to date. With a 0-60 time of 4.6 seconds, and a quarter mile time of 13.4 seconds, it was "the quickest 0-60 sprinter available in any US production-car showroom – at any price."[7] The top speed reported by Motor Trend Magazine was 162 mph. It had the highest top speed of any American car available at any price, and the highest top speed of any Trans Am ever built.[8] With better acceleration than the Ferrari Testarossa and Lamborghini Countach, they were considered to be a performance bargain. They were however, the most expensive Trans Ams ever made. Including the option package discount, the MSRP was about $32,000 for a T-top model with leather seats. A buyer could buy three standard Firebirds or one Corvette for the cost of a Turbo Trans Am. The convertible Turbo Trans Am, of which only three were made, cost as much as $38,823.[9]

LTb1ow 07-21-2010 12:12 PM

lulz fast third gens...

12secondv6 07-21-2010 12:39 PM

v6 was the fastest

deadtrend1 07-21-2010 01:53 PM

TTA was the fastest

Anti_Rice_Guy 07-21-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 12secondv6 (Post 717542)
v6 was the fastest

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadtrend1 (Post 717555)
TTA was the fastest

:stupid:

NastyEllEssWon 07-21-2010 02:19 PM

the firehawks will give them a run for their money....especially the custom order green 383 :nod:

Featherburner 07-21-2010 02:26 PM

Technically, the 91-92 Firehawk was the fastest but was a limited production.

deadtrend1 07-21-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Featherburner (Post 717562)
Technically, the 91-92 Firehawk was the fastest but was a limited production.


wasn't 92 the first year?

Featherburner 07-21-2010 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by deadtrend1 (Post 717563)
wasn't 92 the first year?

Pretty sure some were 91.

NastyEllEssWon 07-21-2010 03:05 PM

yeah the firehawks started in 91 but were order only. i think they only made like 25 firehawks in 91 and like 200 in 92?

BonzoHansen 07-21-2010 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Featherburner (Post 717562)
Technically, the 91-92 Firehawk was the fastest but was a limited production.

as if TTAs were not limited production?

deadtrend1 07-21-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 717572)
yeah the firehawks started in 91 but were order only. i think they only made like 25 firehawks in 91 and like 200 in 92?

no, there are 25 thirdgen firehawks. 27 ordered, 2 cancelled. 24 were Formula's, 1 was a Trans AM since it was a convertable.

Featherburner 07-21-2010 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 717578)
as if TTAs were not limited production?

True, but we're talking 1500 or so, compared to 25. Big difference.

Featherburner 07-21-2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 717572)
yeah the firehawks started in 91 but were order only. i think they only made like 25 firehawks in 91 and like 200 in 92?

25 between 91 and 92. 201 in 93.

Frosty 07-21-2010 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 717559)
the firehawks will give them a run for their money....especially the custom order green 383 :nod:

But the TTA still wins due to ridiculous potential. :)

LTb1ow 07-21-2010 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 717613)
But the TTA still wins due to ridiculous potential. :)

So the fastest third gen... was a V6? http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

Tru2Chevy 07-21-2010 05:08 PM

Yes, 25 total 3rd gen 'hawks, and I might be wrong but I believe they were all actually '92s. IIRC, program started in '91, but they only ended up building a couple of test cars that were crushed.

And yes, I think a '92 'hawk would give the TTAs a real good run for their money. They were rated 350hp / 390tq IIRC, and all had the ZF 6 speed.

- Justin

deadtrend1 07-21-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 717616)
Yes, 25 total 3rd gen 'hawks, and I might be wrong but I believe they were all actually '92s. IIRC, program started in '91, but they only ended up building a couple of test cars that were crushed.

And yes, I think a '92 'hawk would give the TTAs a real good run for their money. They were rated 350hp / 390tq IIRC, and all had the ZF 6 speed.

- Justin

I just want a T-Ram. So I can sell it for tons of $$$$$

Tru2Chevy 07-21-2010 05:13 PM

Yea, definitely. They claim the T-ram alone will boost L98 output by 45hp with no other changes.

- Justin

Frosty 07-21-2010 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LTs1ow (Post 717615)
So the fastest third gen... was a V6? http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

...and ironically a ton faster than a LT1 ;)

V 07-21-2010 05:35 PM

it was fast because it was turbo... a refined grand national motor basically.

baddest434 07-21-2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 717621)
...and ironically a ton faster than a LT1 ;)

ziiiiiiiiiiiiiing :rofl:

Featherburner 07-21-2010 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 717621)
...and ironically a ton faster than a LT1 ;)

Actually, on par with a 93 Firehawk but you're right faster than the rest of them.:lol:

BigAls87Z28 07-21-2010 06:17 PM

TTA was one of the fastest Fbodies, ever, not counting COPO cars. TTA's vs an LS1 car would be the closest match.
So...it took GM 10 years to develop a fbody to match the power...of a V6 third gen. BTW, the Firebird was the heavier of the two Fbodies.

Featherburner 07-21-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 717651)
TTA was one of the fastest Fbodies, ever, not counting COPO cars. TTA's vs an LS1 car would be the closest match.
So...it took GM 10 years to develop a fbody to match the power...of a V6 third gen. BTW, the Firebird was the heavier of the two Fbodies.

I see 1/4 times for the TTA of 13.5 so some LS cars are faster by a lot.


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