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SpeakersGoBoom 11-22-2004 10:05 AM
Mach 1 Block
 
I'm currently in a debate with someone I know (unfortunately) He has a 03(i think) mach 1 mustang, and hes insisting that it has an Alpha Romeo block. I say that alpha romeo makes little 4 cylinder engines for tiny little touring cars and that if i had an alpha romeo engine in an american v8 car, i would be ashamed and not tell anyone. I've asked a few people, and nobody knows for sure, but they dont think it has a romeo block. Im asking the masses now: What kinda block is it? If anyone has any websites or related info, please include a link. If I'm right, next time i see him i wanna pummel him with information showing him that hes wrong. Hes an *******. he deserves that kinda treatment.

j0n 11-22-2004 10:22 AM
stop spending money on non-performance mods and get a decent performance setup in ur t/a then add n2o and pummel him on the track

Squirrel 11-22-2004 10:30 AM
its not an Alpha romeo block, its more than likely a Romeo block...thats pretty probable since the old pre 03 Cobras had the same DOHC motor

ar0ck 11-22-2004 11:31 AM
Re: Mach 1 Block
 
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Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
Â*I say that alpha romeo makes little 4 cylinder engines for tiny little touring cars and that if i had an alpha romeo engine in an american v8 car, i would be ashamed and not tell anyone.
Why would you be ashamed? Even if it was true (which it isnt), , Alfa Romeo makes some quality products, and most of their products are hand made in Italy. Its quality top notch stuff. It blows away the craftsmanship of your standard american made small block.

SpeakersGoBoom 11-22-2004 11:56 AM
Look at alpha romeo cars. there tiny little 4 cylinder cars, and the fastest they probably go is 110. Im not saying that its a bad engine, im just saying that the only alpha romeo engines ive seen are 4 cylinder.

SpeakersGoBoom 11-22-2004 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Squirrel
its not an Alpha romeo block, its more than likely a Romeo block...thats pretty probable since the old pre 03 Cobras had the same DOHC motor
exactly what is a Romeo block? i thought romeo and alpha romeo were the same thing.

ar0ck 11-22-2004 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
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Originally Posted by Squirrel
its not an Alpha romeo block, its more than likely a Romeo block...thats pretty probable since the old pre 03 Cobras had the same DOHC motor
exactly what is a Romeo block? Â*i thought romeo and alpha romeo were the same thing.
I think its a Romeo block (like Romeo & Juliet)
Engine: 4.6-liter/280.0 cu.-in. DOHC 32v V8 (Similiar to the 99-02 Cobras, minus the shaker hood)
http://usiweb.usi.edu/fall2002/cis/c...A%20ENGINE.JPG
And the car is Alfa Romeo (Ro-MEy-O)

http://www.motorimania.it/manifestaz....2500.SS.1.jpg

SpeakersGoBoom 11-22-2004 04:03 PM
o, well he was pronouncing it Ro-may-yo...thats what made me wonder

enRo 11-22-2004 07:16 PM
http://media-carnell.macrobyte.net/c...105_edited.jpg

SpeakersGoBoom 11-22-2004 10:16 PM
:lol:
LEXI, are you done with the ford avatar yet?

skorpion317 11-22-2004 11:42 PM
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...60_10_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...160_1_full.jpg

2003 Alfa Romeo 147 GTA. 3.2L V6 making 250 HP.

Midnite 11-22-2004 11:46 PM
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:rofl: that's great!

I don't even want to think about all the money I've put into the Super Coupe.......It makes me sick!

BigAls87Z28 11-23-2004 12:09 AM
Romeo is where the engine is made. The Mach1 block is a Romeo block, as are all the Ford modular motors are. The SVT's motor is hand built, but the motor and parts are made at the Romeo plant.

SpeakersGoBoom 11-23-2004 12:14 AM
I was wondering when you'd post an answer :lol: That brings me to my next question. SVT: He says its a completely seperate company, i say its a lineup, like SS, or AMG, or M. Whats the final answer Al?

skorpion317 11-23-2004 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
I was wondering when you'd post an answer :lol: Â* That brings me to my next question. Â*SVT: He says its a completely seperate company, i say its a lineup, like SS, or AMG, or M. Â*Whats the final answer Al?
Lineup. It's Ford's in-house high-performance division.

BigAls87Z28 11-23-2004 12:23 AM
SVT is part of Ford, but they pretty much do what they want. I belive that SVT has its own budget for itself, but the SVT people are paid by Ford. I am not 100% of that, becaue I really could care. SVT has its own warranty program, and has its own engine building plants to hand build the Cobra and GT motors.

SS is different as its a branch of GM Performance Division. GMPD puts on badges per division.

SVT is more or like like PVO(Chrysler/Dodge), AMG and M.
Holden's performance divison, HSV, is a seperate division and is loosly based with Holden. HSV uses Holden cars in racing, and has made such sick machines as the infamous 427 Monaro.

I really wish Alfa sold cars here in the US again. Alfa is part of GM BTW...well, GM owns X% of Alfa.

skorpion317 11-23-2004 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
SVT is part of Ford, but they pretty much do what they want. Â*I belive that SVT has its own budget for itself, but the SVT people are paid by Ford. Â*I am not 100% of that, becaue I really could care. Â*SVT has its own warranty program, and has its own engine building plants to hand build the Cobra and GT motors. Â* Â*

SS is different as its a branch of GM Performance Division. Â*GMPD puts on badges per division. Â*

SVT is more or like Â*like PVO(Chrysler/Dodge), AMG and M. Â*
Holden's performance divison, HSV, is a seperate division and is loosly based with Holden. Â*HSV uses Holden cars in racing, and has made such sick machines as the infamous 427 Monaro. Â* Â*

I really wish Alfa sold cars here in the US again. Â*Alfa is part of GM BTW...well, GM owns X% of Alfa.
from what i hear, Alfa Romeo is coming back to the states in a few years.

BigAls87Z28 11-23-2004 12:35 AM
Yeah, I head that along with many other cars such as Fiat, Peugo(sp?), etc....but I doubt it.
Alfa would need a lot to come here.

SpeakersGoBoom 11-23-2004 12:46 AM
Peugot is here...sort of. Theres a peugot dealership in ramsey, but that place is shady as hell, and all of the peugots there (none for sale. they only repair them there) are ancient. But, there is at least 1 new peugot around here. its an orange one. dont know who owns it, or where its from...but yea.

skorpion317 11-23-2004 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
Peugot is here...sort of. Â*Theres a peugot dealership in ramsey, but that place is shady as hell, and all of the peugots there (none for sale. Â*they only repair them there) are ancient. Â*But, there is at least 1 new peugot around here. Â*its an orange one. Â*dont know who owns it, or where its from...but yea.
how is it a dealership if they don't sell any cars? if they just repair them, that would make it a repair shop, wouldn't it?

SpeakersGoBoom 11-23-2004 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
Peugot is here...sort of. Â*Theres a peugot dealership in ramsey, but that place is shady as hell, and all of the peugots there (none for sale. Â*they only repair them there) are ancient. Â*But, there is at least 1 new peugot around here. Â*its an orange one. Â*dont know who owns it, or where its from...but yea.
how is it a dealership if they don't sell any cars? if they just repair them, that would make it a repair shop, wouldn't it?
from what i hear, they used to sell them back in the day, and they have a showroom, its just always closed. Some pretty nice cars in the showroom. A pantera, a delorean, an old thunderbird (OLD old), and a jaguar.

LS1LT1 11-23-2004 11:30 AM
Re: Mach 1 Block
 
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Originally Posted by TransAm4Life
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Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
I say that alpha romeo makes little 4 cylinder engines for tiny little touring cars and that if i had an alpha romeo engine in an american v8 car, i would be ashamed and not tell anyone.
Why would you be ashamed? Even if it was true (which it isnt), , Alfa Romeo makes some quality products, and most of their products are hand made in Italy. Its quality top notch stuff. It blows away the craftsmanship of your standard american made small block.
:huh: CERTAINLY you must be talking about very recent history...Alfa Romeo has historically made some of the most unreliable crap ever sent to the United States in the past...fun cars, good looking ones in some cases even but I assure you that their engines were NOT :nono: quite up to the standards of even a basic LS1 or Romeo plant (yes it is Romeo, a Ford owned plant in the US, NOT Alfa Romeo the Italian car company LOL) built modular V8. :usa: :D

LS1LT1 11-23-2004 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
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Originally Posted by skorpion317
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Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
Peugot is here...sort of. Theres a peugot dealership in ramsey, but that place is shady as hell, and all of the peugots there (none for sale. they only repair them there) are ancient. But, there is at least 1 new peugot around here. its an orange one. dont know who owns it, or where its from...but yea.
how is it a dealership if they don't sell any cars? if they just repair them, that would make it a repair shop, wouldn't it?
from what i hear, they used to sell them back in the day, and they have a showroom, its just always closed. Some pretty nice cars in the showroom. A pantera, a delorean, an old thunderbird (OLD old), and a jaguar.
Yeah I 've pulled through that place (on Route 17?) as well, Peugots all over the place and a couple of classics in the showroom.

SpeakersGoBoom 11-23-2004 12:08 PM
That Pantera :drool:
1987 Pantera GTS
should be a 351 cleavland w/ a ZN 5 Speed Transmission, which was a lemanse winner in the Ford GT40
One of only 2 made that year

skorpion317 11-23-2004 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeakersGoBoom
That Pantera :drool:
1987 Pantera GTS
should be a 351 cleavland w/ a ZN 5 Speed Transmission, which was a lemanse winner in the Ford GT40
One of only 2 made that year
my mom's cousin owns a '79 Pantera, which he races on the weekends. beautiful car, only 8,000 miles on the odometer.


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