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Frank, autocockers are alright, they are decent guns but by far not the top of the line. yeah 13 balls a secons way more than possible, it has surpassed the 20s and some guns i have seen up in the 30s. I dont play that way cause it only takes one ball to get someone out the extra 29 you wasted adds up in price after a while. The prices have gone down, and things are really getting cheap to buy. I bought that Automag for $95 bucks. About 3 years ago that would have run you about $400 and then more for the modifications.
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