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Originally Posted by Ian
cTo quickly switch the subject to the war in Iraq, I see it as a MASSIVE failure. we could have gotten the same results using much less man power and it would have cost a lot less. We went against the UN and started a war. we pissed everyone off, yet we were still tip-toeing through the god damn desert. we dont need to police that country and we dont need to stick around to make sure they're okay. kill the bastard thats responsible for the 9-11 attacks and get out. I also hate the idea of forcing our governmental structure upon them. let them do what they want to do.
sorry, I'm done for a little bit.
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It's far from a failure..stop watching CNN and MSNBC. There are a TON of good things going there. Should we be there? That's up for debate. I have mixed feelings. I think the REASONS why we're there should've been stated from the beginning and not covered up by either lies or shakey intelligence information.
But...to put things into perspective. Look at the Middle East. Look at the trouble countries(then again what country isn't trouble in that steaming ********). Now look at Iraq in relation to those said countries. Now tell me why we're there. 
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