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Originally Posted by PBodyGT87
We have oil refineries here already. In fact, there's a big one in south jersey. As it stands, we already are using fuel from our own country,and combining it with the fuel we have to import, because we really don't have a whole lot. the problem is, having enough for "the better part of a century" doesn't help us at all when we run out of fuel in after "better years". Sure, great, if we used it all now, it would be cheap for us again, then we'd get old, and then we'd have to listen to our grandchildren bitch about how they don't like the civic hybrid you, grandpa dearest, chipped in to buy for them, cuz it's slow, and they want a car like grandpa had back in the "better part of the century" (but not grandpa's POS ford.... they'r talking about his f-body, when it ran, you know, like when it didnt have a whole in the block,  ) and you'll have to tell him to shove it, even though gas is 5 dollars a pint, because we used up all of our own reserve fuel back in the "better part of the century", and the arabs won't import to us for any less.
So let E85 have a run. We've all got gasoline powered cars, and we'll probably all be too broke to go out buying e85 cars and hyrbids. But if half the world is gonna hop on the tree hugger bandwagon, kill off some corn and make some fuel, and lessen the demand for fossil fuel, then let them. Because when demand increases, so does the price. No one is forcing you to run your car on better crocker's cooking lard or whatever other fuel we come up with. but damnit, if it minimizes the need for gasoline, let it catch on for some percent of the world.
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i know about the refineries that we have in the US, but they don't exactly drill for the oil do they. we use less and less domestic oil every year despite the fact that every year we pop another exporatory drilling in here and there in the desert south west and in alaska just for find a few billion more barrels available.
ethanol is a poor solution because the supply side is disappearing, unlike oil which we keep finding more and more of domestically. with more and more farms going out of business, despite goverment attempts to step in and save them, the renewable resource that everyone loves to hug and hold will soon be buried under that same hippy ******** condo or the shopping center with the natural foods store they love.
hybrid and diesel technologies are far ahead of the enviromental curve all over the world. the US is jsut lagging behind and trying to put a bandaid on the situation.
for anyoen who doesn't believe in the power of hybrids or diesels, panoz won a sports car race earlier this season with a diesel and ran a hybrid very competitively at le masn about 3 years ago. the le mans effort only failed because the hybrid power plant was stranger than the transmission, they gave up when the third one blew to pieces
also, as an FYI, my camaro runs fine, it has run well since the day the engine swap was completed.