[Tsar]

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

al queda's primary leadership, bin laden and others, were based in iraq and the government was terribly unstable.

um..wrong chief, where are you getting this stuff from. After Bin laden was exiled out of Saudia Arabia and given (after being disowned) a substantial sum of money by his family, who are billionaires and have nothing to do with terrorism, he went to Afganistan and not Iraq. You might also recall that that Afganistan had all the training camps for his "soldiers" and they were protected by Taliban who pretty much took over Afganistan after Soviet-Afgan war. Saddam would've slaughtered Taliban just he annialated any other group he disliked or that he thought was threat to his rule. During on of many stupid Bush's speaches he tryed to say that Al queda was somehow in iraq but that was BS just like WMDs.
ninjaedit* you might remember during the war in afganistan most al queda people ran across the border to pakistan - it would be kinda hard to jump from iraq to pakistan....

you just made another one of my favorite stupid statements. what does w have to do with his dad? did america get attacked on it's own soil under george sr's administration?
sr took action based on a 40 year old treaty with the government of kuwait to offer mutual aid in time of conflict. the treaty invovled the US, kuwait, united arab emerites(sp?), and iran. that is why the us troops stopped at the iran/iraq border.

that was one of my personal attacks on bush, i have no proof why he attacked iraq. but its not because of WMDs or terrorists (well besides saddam, he killed everyone else).

china is not an immediate threat to the US, and have not politically shown any desire to become one. so we don't have to worry about them right now. although i am sure the US government is keeping an eye on them.

My point about China was more about them having Nukes but no one really cares. Just like India, Russia and some other Euro countries have them but nothing is ever said about them.

You still havent said anything about North Korea, i thought they were axis of evil are they were not allowed on the face of the earth - or did i misunderstood almighty Bush?

as far as who supplies arms to whom, who cares. at some point the US government has supplied arms to nearly every nation in the world, including the swiss. the soviet union has taken the lead in this department since it's collapse as it opened up a massive supply of cheap weapons to the world market.
not that it makes much fo a difference who gives the weapons out. because we all know there is someone somewhere who can deliver anything for a price.

well tree huggers care, i dont