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Originally Posted by camarokev
hmmm...Al, your quote above does what a lot of liberals do lately- take things immediately to EXTREMES. Who said anything about ****ing up the rights we have in the constitution? In order to protect our country, we NEED a law like the PATRIOT act that gives our country a right to listen in and watch over people who are doing this suspicious or are suspected or could be suspected.
Granted, a major right that is implied in "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" is privacy. However, what many liberals are fighting for is the right that NO ONE be screened. How about some of these people from other countries who ARE doing things wrong and are NOT our citizens? Should we give them that same implied right when they could bomb the heck out of our country. This is where Democrats and Republicans disagree.
Seems to me like most liberals would rather have us sit on our butts, do nothing, pull out of Iraq and let them all kill themselves (a whole other issue yes, but if we pull out now, mass hysteria would ensue in that country), and just wait for our country to get bombed or attacked again. Please. At least we have a government that is doing SOMETHING to protect us.
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I'm not a liberal, I'm more republican than anything else. The problem I have with the Patriot Act is it in non-descriminatory in who it says we are allowed to watch over. If the government wanted it could watch you and get all your information and monitor you. You may say, "I don't care, I have nothing to hide". I do care, and I have nothing to hide. It's almost guilty until proven innocent to me. I wouldn't mind it if there were a few more restrictions or perhaps better reasons needed before monitoring can be done. What's the saying? "Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security," can anyone remember who said that? Some guy, maybe you've heard of him, Benjamin Franklin. There are a few other quotes that I would love to put up here that come from other founding fathers but I can't remember who said them or exactly how they were worded so I'm not gonna put them.
I don't agree with a lot of stuff this administration has done, but i'm sure now I'll just get yelled at for being a liberal, or unpatriotic or something like that, just know i'm neither.