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Originally Posted by jims69camaro
this issue is far greater than our addiction to oil. i, for one, will never give up my hobby cars and therefore, will never give up on gasoline as the primary energy source for them. while my 'daily' might become an alternative fuel vehicle, i will still be dependent on gasoline in some form or another. i understand the carb conversion for E85 is not that difficult.
this is about war. most americans think the war is over, but osama and his lackeys are just getting started. stick your head in the sand while they shoot your ass off. ignoring a problem has never been the solution and it never will be. i like the way that general thinks. i don't think he's a war monger or whatever you want to categorize him as - i think he thinks clearly about this situation and even has some good foresight about what it will take to get through this with the minimum loss of life.
it's easy to say that a war will cost lives, but how many lives were lost before the war was even started? (actually, in looking back at that statement, i guss you can call september 11, 2001, the start of the war - at least on their part) how many lives were lost in the initial attack on the WTC?
i had to take my wife into NY this past monday, so i suggested that we take a walk to the WTC site. i have to say, it's one thing to see it being reported on the news and seeing pictures of it, etc., but seeing it in person is a very emotional, eye-opening experience. the square footage involved in the destruction is huge. i got very emotional and could barely walk around the site.
i have felt very strongly about this subject since sept. 2001, and visiting the site has only strengthened my resolve. the islamic extremists have to be put out of our misery. period. they will not stop. they will keep coming until we are all dead. when will enough life lost be enough for the bleeding hearts to finally realize that there is nothing to be gained by burying their heads in the sand?
i agree that pulling troops out of the region shows them (the extremists) our lack of resolve and our short attention span. maybe we need another bombing here to wake some of these people up... even as much as i dread another american life being lost due to our inability to act and foresee such an action coming down the road, which it is and will be here before you know it.
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The WTC site has a two way street for me, i grew up in NYC in the village and when my oldest son was around 21 years old, i got him a local 15 operating engineer union book -- its for downtown NYC -- wheir i am from in 2000, than 2001 one came, he was assigned the pit being an oiler to re fuel the standby equiptment, lighting systems, generators, and alike, he was their twice every day to re fuel, from the first day till the FBI closed the job site it being finished, he draged the hoses over the cops, fireman, and the people who had been killed, by this bunch we are talking about, i have many pictures of the fellers who worked the pit as it was known to them, some have come down with awfull stuff ( medically ) and some have died --the 911 commission has been looking into and at all the guys who were their, and he did not escape unscaved, he has a thing his heart stops while hes sleeping scary at 28, some of the 17 doctors he sees think its a PTSD thing, i hope they find out for sure, ( its not over for some ) and to think i have had some people say to me they dont believe 911 was anything to have conserned about, some of the storys from the guys are heart breaking, and yet we have people on this site who said they would rather go to another country rather than defend America, stating blood for oil, or some other ********, look around at who you would want next to you if the day ever comes, and the next election will determin weather the USA will still be around as we knew it - jz