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Originally Posted by j0n
Quoted for a ton of good points.
As far as I'm concerned the bottom line here is that Tim and Justin have painted themselves into a corner regarding the club's "expenses". While domain names and hosting fees need to be paid, a variety of things that have put them into the position they're in were just wasteful spending. Take the Nats for example. I don't know of anyone that supported the idea to have 46 different race classes, and 65 different show awards. All these classes needed awards which i believe Tim and Justin paid out of pocket. Simply eliminating a ton of needless classes would have saved them money, and for anyone that attended the ECFBN, it would have lengthened the racing beyond 2 rounds.
As for the debt involved with t-shirt, hoodie, and calender sales, a pre-order could have been arranged, which would eliminate any out-of-pocket expenses for the admins. However, they chose to spend the money and order them without any preorders.
Basically my opinion is that you and Justin dug your own graves here, and making a ton of nazi rules in order to beg for sponsorship is not the only way out. Be smarter with your money, don't mandate check boxes before someone can post.
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I totally agree...I said from the start they shouldve just done something through cafepress...the profit margin wouldve been slimmer, but Ordering $1000 in hoodies or Calendars and then hoping to sell them in a couple of weeks or months time just isnt the smartest business decision in my opinion.
They brought up the quality of cafepress stuff...I bought an LS1tech shirt & hat ~3 years ago that I wear to this day that show very little wear...hat I think I lost at some point but was very good quality.
I've got a YEAR of hosting for ~$80 for my website with 1000gb of bandwidth...
As far as the nats goes a better agreement with the host would be their best bet...I mean if your bringing in 100 or 200 cars @ $20pop + food/drinks at the lemonade stand I would say the track is making some money off of the deal
why not throw the club $100-200 kickback money for getting the people there. That would keep the site running for at least a year from what I can see...and maybe even get them $ for keeping the software they use updated
We also now have several sponsors which i know is bringing in a few bucks a month. Yes there have been a few threads on here that may have gotten out of control, in that case MODERATE THEM! We've got 2 admins & what 3 mods now for a board with 1000 members? Seems to be more then enough to keep the piece & keep the cursing down to an acceptible level if thats what this is really about.
In the end I think a wiser business plan needs to be in place unless your trying to make a living off of this site which I doubt can ever happen...at least at this point in time I don't see it.
Think smart guys.