don't even bother trying to get a first year car. the stealerships have been selling rights to the limited number fo cars that will be available for prices up to $20k from what i have heard, that is in addition to whatever you spend ordering the car + their rip off market price adjustment.
basically, anyplace you go you can expect to pay $7k-10k above sticker for one of the 2010 models being delivered starting in mid '09.
i know of exactly ONE dealership that i may try to work with to get one if they are willing to stick to or very close to the sticker price, and i am not counting on even them being so kind. if they are willing to work with me, i will let eveyone know where they need to do their shopping
