[SteveR]

Originally Posted by mtnhopper1

I'd like all the Rudy supporters to make a list of things he did for NY.

As far as I can see, he (like some other pols we love to hate), made his name by taking credit for things he didn't do.

-Rudy didn't "save" NY after 9-11, he let his clusterf--k administration send every dope with a shovel into a toxic waste site.

-Rudy didn't "clean up the streets" in NY by getting rid of crime. The crime in NY dropped proportionately with big cities in the rest of the country through the late 90s. He did get rid of the window washers and hookers by the tunnel, but as NJ residents, that shouldn't make you happy becasue most of them went to JC, Newark, and Trenton. He didn't give them jobs or improve their condition, he just moved them somewhere else. He DID put more cops on the street... by cutting benefits to the ones that are out there. Nice. Good job.

So, make me a list. I'm open-minded, but I just don't see it. He seems like another narrow-minded, right-wing, talking head who will say whatever the loudest special interest wants him to say.

I mean, he backed the Red Sox just because he was in Boston! Trivial, I admit, but it kinda gives you a glimpse into his character.

I grew up in NY when that scum bag was mayor. Do you want to know how he "cleaned up the streets"? Simple, HE MURDERED THE HOMELESS! It's true. The cops would go around to all of the abandoned houses and buildings in the city in the middle of the night and knock the buildings down with all of the innocent people in it. And to make sure noone got out alive, they'd place one of the giant steel plates that they put down on the road to cover construction holes over the doors on the first floor with cranes. Saw it myself. If that murderous piece of crap gets elected, Im moving the hell away from north america.