[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Originally Posted by SmokingSS

you are ALL missing the point, the shape of the wing has nothing to do with it. Lift will come as the plane moves forward.....

and the plane will move forward because NOTHING wheel related can hold it.

*sigh*... lemme try another more simple explination...
you are stuck in a fast moving river... you kick you're feet and legs as fast as you can yet you get no where... but then you grab onto a branch/root hanging right above the water... you use both arms to pull your way up and along the branch upstream, no matter how much the stream speeds up an flows faster, you still can pull you way upstream with you arms(granted you're not a weakling) in this your legs are the planes wheels, usless, and your arms are the propellers, the branch is the air the propellers "grab"...

...let me know that this got through to at least 1 person....

You got through to at least one person.

At this point this is like politics, nobody is changing anyone else's mind.