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redbanditZ28 · 09-10-2008, 09:57 AM

I voted no. I realize they are just doing their job, but I have had way too many bad experiences with police officers not doing their job right. And you don't have to be a police officer to understand the wrong things I've witnessed.

1. They are never around when you need them (in my experience at least). My house got paintballed and a punk kid spray painted the back of my garage, and the officer didn't come until an hour after the fact. On top of that, the police in my town rarely if at all patrol. It is a small town I live in and I never see them parked anywhere or driving around when the kids get out of school. I also got stuck on 287 twice in my friend's car and any other time the state troopers are driving up and down 287, but a cop car didn't show up until after the tow truck was already there and even then, he acted mean and rushed us to get the car off the road when the truck was clearly loading my friend's car up.

2. I had a bad scenario where I got pulled over for doing the speed limit in So. Bound Brook. Apparently me driving with the windshield wipers on when it was misting out at 12:30 AM and doing 25 in a 25 zone was seen as conspicuous. I was coming home late at night from work and it was a long day and the officer pulls me over for impeding traffic. Bare in mind there is no one on the street at all except me and the cop car. Even then, I was not impeding the speed limit when he said he clocked me as doing 25 in a 25. Insert foot in mouth for him. He then accussed me of drinking because my eyelids looked heavy and I was slightly tearing from being tired from not getting any sleep the night before and working a double shift as I explained to the officer. I gave the officer attitude because he started accusing me after I told him what I told him, and I completly disagreed with him as to why he pulled me over. I even asked him point blank "Are you accusing me of something?" I let that be known to him in a serious voice. Unlike what everyone else thinks, he actually didn't give me attitude back. He ran my license and just said have a good night. One for me, zero for the cop who is ticket hungry. Bare in mind, I take pride in the fact that I never speed when I drive and also that I don't drink alcohol or do any drugs at all. The cop was trying to do nothing more than to give the only car going by (me) a ticket for something and he didn't have squat to get me on and I called him on it. Doing nothing more than wasting my time.

Never get intimidated by the cop. All you have to do is ask for their badge number (assuming you did nothing wrong like me) and they realize they are in serious trouble for doing something that they shouldn't have done to a pedestrian. There is also the media if you feel that you have been wronged. That rarely happens though.

3. Lastly, I stopped to check on two cars in a fender bender on 287 and to see if both drivers were okay. They were and exchanged info. The lady who got hit from behind drives off and the guy that hit her is left talking to me. A plain white unmarked Dodge Durango pulls and starts beeping the horn at us. This SUV has no identifying police decals or anything on it. It looked like some random white Durango. I don't really pay attention to what the guy is beeping at and the guy I am talking to does a hand motion like "hold on a sec" or "it's okay, move on". Neither of us realize it is an unmarked police car. The less than intelligent state trooper doesn't put on the lights or sound the signal and is behind tinted windows. He also waits for about 3 mins before he gets himself out of his SUV to come up and talk to us. He yells at the guy who hit the girl with his car for not acknowledging him. The trooper acted very cruel and stupid in this situation. He gave no indication that he was a trooper until he stepped out of his car, and by that time, he was already mad for the guy I was talking to for not acknowleding him. He then yells at the poor old guy to move his car off the road ASAP. If he never got out of his White Durango, neither of us would have never known he was a state trooper at all. Thats what you get for having an unmarked, tinted window vehicle and not getting hitting the sirens or flashing the lights.

4. I am at a German festival in Chester and as my family and I are walking around, we see this old couple. A husband is trying to get his wife to wake up and he is shaking her and her body is limp. She isn't responding and the husband is yelling for help and random people at the festival are just passing by and doing nothing. It was surreal. So I act quickly and run to a police officer patrolling the event telling him that an old lady either fainted or isn't responding. First he doesn't even acknowledge me and is talking to a guy he knows, while I am standing there and he knows I am trying to talk to him. Second, I tell him what I saw and I tried showing him where the couple was and he continues to talk to his friend for like a 1 min afterwards and then he slowly walks behind me following me to the old couple. He didn't perform CPR or anything and just tried yelling at the lady to wake her up. The guy was useless. He acted like he didn't even care. I mean if that was one of my family members, I would have had a field day reporting this guy for not doing his job. Fortunately, the rescue squad got there and eventually woke her up.

It is true that there are good and bad cops, but their sense of duty often clouds their judgment and actions. And like someone else said, I feel that police should get in as much trouble for doing things wrong as pedestrians do. I almost feel they should get even a harsher penalty because they are the authoritative figures on upholding the law and they should know better than an average pedestrian. I often see cop cars making illegal u-turns or doing something illegal and they aren't responding to a call either when doing the things. I mean I am like you guys. I have friends that are cops, but the job gets to their head too much at times depending on the person. But these are just my personal experiences. To each his or her own. In my experiences, their motto isn't to serve and protect, its to annoy and harass. I respect them for putting their lives on the line and my response doesn't go for all cops everywhere, but there are some bad ones within NJ. But I always tell my friends that are police officers to keep safe out there.

09-10-2008, 09:57 AM	#82
redbanditZ28 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Somerset County, NJ Posts: 447 iTrader: (0)	I voted no. I realize they are just doing their job, but I have had way too many bad experiences with police officers not doing their job right. And you don't have to be a police officer to understand the wrong things I've witnessed. 1. They are never around when you need them (in my experience at least). My house got paintballed and a punk kid spray painted the back of my garage, and the officer didn't come until an hour after the fact. On top of that, the police in my town rarely if at all patrol. It is a small town I live in and I never see them parked anywhere or driving around when the kids get out of school. I also got stuck on 287 twice in my friend's car and any other time the state troopers are driving up and down 287, but a cop car didn't show up until after the tow truck was already there and even then, he acted mean and rushed us to get the car off the road when the truck was clearly loading my friend's car up. 2. I had a bad scenario where I got pulled over for doing the speed limit in So. Bound Brook. Apparently me driving with the windshield wipers on when it was misting out at 12:30 AM and doing 25 in a 25 zone was seen as conspicuous. I was coming home late at night from work and it was a long day and the officer pulls me over for impeding traffic. Bare in mind there is no one on the street at all except me and the cop car. Even then, I was not impeding the speed limit when he said he clocked me as doing 25 in a 25. Insert foot in mouth for him. He then accussed me of drinking because my eyelids looked heavy and I was slightly tearing from being tired from not getting any sleep the night before and working a double shift as I explained to the officer. I gave the officer attitude because he started accusing me after I told him what I told him, and I completly disagreed with him as to why he pulled me over. I even asked him point blank "Are you accusing me of something?" I let that be known to him in a serious voice. Unlike what everyone else thinks, he actually didn't give me attitude back. He ran my license and just said have a good night. One for me, zero for the cop who is ticket hungry. Bare in mind, I take pride in the fact that I never speed when I drive and also that I don't drink alcohol or do any drugs at all. The cop was trying to do nothing more than to give the only car going by (me) a ticket for something and he didn't have squat to get me on and I called him on it. Doing nothing more than wasting my time. Never get intimidated by the cop. All you have to do is ask for their badge number (assuming you did nothing wrong like me) and they realize they are in serious trouble for doing something that they shouldn't have done to a pedestrian. There is also the media if you feel that you have been wronged. That rarely happens though. 3. Lastly, I stopped to check on two cars in a fender bender on 287 and to see if both drivers were okay. They were and exchanged info. The lady who got hit from behind drives off and the guy that hit her is left talking to me. A plain white unmarked Dodge Durango pulls and starts beeping the horn at us. This SUV has no identifying police decals or anything on it. It looked like some random white Durango. I don't really pay attention to what the guy is beeping at and the guy I am talking to does a hand motion like "hold on a sec" or "it's okay, move on". Neither of us realize it is an unmarked police car. The less than intelligent state trooper doesn't put on the lights or sound the signal and is behind tinted windows. He also waits for about 3 mins before he gets himself out of his SUV to come up and talk to us. He yells at the guy who hit the girl with his car for not acknowledging him. The trooper acted very cruel and stupid in this situation. He gave no indication that he was a trooper until he stepped out of his car, and by that time, he was already mad for the guy I was talking to for not acknowleding him. He then yells at the poor old guy to move his car off the road ASAP. If he never got out of his White Durango, neither of us would have never known he was a state trooper at all. Thats what you get for having an unmarked, tinted window vehicle and not getting hitting the sirens or flashing the lights. 4. I am at a German festival in Chester and as my family and I are walking around, we see this old couple. A husband is trying to get his wife to wake up and he is shaking her and her body is limp. She isn't responding and the husband is yelling for help and random people at the festival are just passing by and doing nothing. It was surreal. So I act quickly and run to a police officer patrolling the event telling him that an old lady either fainted or isn't responding. First he doesn't even acknowledge me and is talking to a guy he knows, while I am standing there and he knows I am trying to talk to him. Second, I tell him what I saw and I tried showing him where the couple was and he continues to talk to his friend for like a 1 min afterwards and then he slowly walks behind me following me to the old couple. He didn't perform CPR or anything and just tried yelling at the lady to wake her up. The guy was useless. He acted like he didn't even care. I mean if that was one of my family members, I would have had a field day reporting this guy for not doing his job. Fortunately, the rescue squad got there and eventually woke her up. It is true that there are good and bad cops, but their sense of duty often clouds their judgment and actions. And like someone else said, I feel that police should get in as much trouble for doing things wrong as pedestrians do. I almost feel they should get even a harsher penalty because they are the authoritative figures on upholding the law and they should know better than an average pedestrian. I often see cop cars making illegal u-turns or doing something illegal and they aren't responding to a call either when doing the things. I mean I am like you guys. I have friends that are cops, but the job gets to their head too much at times depending on the person. But these are just my personal experiences. To each his or her own. In my experiences, their motto isn't to serve and protect, its to annoy and harass. I respect them for putting their lives on the line and my response doesn't go for all cops everywhere, but there are some bad ones within NJ. But I always tell my friends that are police officers to keep safe out there.