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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
Take off the uber-fanboi hat for a second and look at the car Al. It is just like the original Challenger with one minor difference, the power plant is not the best one on the block anymore.
Look into that vast wealth of automotive history you seem to have committed to memory. Back in the day the Challenger was NOT the direct competitor of the Camaro, just like today. The Camaro was a compact car and the Challenger was a worse handling, better riding, and much more expensive MID SIZE competing with the Chevelle and GTO
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1970 Challenger
190 inches long
110 inch wheel base
76 inch width
51 inches tall
1970 Camaro
188 inches
108 inch wheelbase
74.4 inch width
50.5 hight
1970 Mustang
187.4 inches long
108 inch wheel base
72 inches wide
71-73 Mustangs were bigger.
190 inches long
109 inch wheel base
75 inches wide
So...tell me again what class the Challenger was in?
Challenger was and will continue to be the Pony car for Dodge. The Baracuda was Plymouths. The E body faught the Mustang and the Camaro's in Trans Am.
Charger was Dodge's muscle car to combat the Chevelles, GTO's, and the rest of teh A body crew.
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Seriously man, stop using those rose colored GM glasses whenever someone else builds a car. I have had the pleasure, and I mean pleasure, of riding in a new Challenger and it rides better than any of the other vehicles that have been built on the platform, even the 300M. It also has the best seats of any large car I have ever ridden in.
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Good...it drives like a luxury car. Im glad.
Its not. Its a sports car. But it drives like a 2 ton E class. Good for a 300C, not good for a 425hp sports car.
Just read the current Camaro's reviews. They are driving a car that is 90-95% production ready, and the reviews are glowing in Camaro's favor. Talk of the Challenger's sloppy handling compared to the amazing grip the Camaro has shown in these tests is similar to the same thing you read when MT put the Charger RT vs the G8 GT. Charger lost in every single catagory, yet power is about the same, weight is about the same, but G8 still easilly outdid the Charger.
Expect the SAME result.
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If you want to make direct comparisons to the Camaro, you are way off the mark. Between the two cars the mid-price muscle market is covered. The Mustang is now officially the odd man out with plenty of power, terrible suspension, and the most mediocre ride of any car going.
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Agreed, but the Mustang can work up. New platform will be here by 2012, as will new power plants. Its cheap flimsy platform should do for now, hopefully what Ford has learned about the GT500's handling, or lack there of, they can try to make the upcoming "5.0" Mustang do better then the current one. Plus it gets a refresh for this year (that was moved up because Ford is scared of the Camaro and Challenger's success) so that it can look on par with the new new commers.