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Originally Posted by SteveR
Case in point, the Cobra. The AC Cobra was a European car that he simply imported, and put a Ford motor in it and called it a Shelby. There's no talent or creativity there. The new Shelbys? They're SVT Cobras with his name on them. The Shelby GT Mustang? It's a stock GT with some stripes, Fords CAI and chip, painted wheels, and Hurst shifter. But Shelby charges like 12k for the package. That isn't unique anyway and uses Ford's off the shelf parts. That cost like 3k at most. Shelby to me seems like the Donald Trump of cars, he's great at advertising, but has nothing to actually sell of any real creativity and individuality.
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Actually, that was talented when he swapped a heavy cast iron 8 cylinder into a light weight, and fragile frame. It was more then just shoe horning. Id like you to build a car swapping a big motor into something light, make it perform right, and not only that, but get it to win races, and have a cult of followers for it. RX-7's with LS-1's Fiero's with L67's, these are the cars that people build in their garages, but you wont see a market for these. He turned a dismal british car company, and the future of the SBF, into one of the greatest combinations in history. I guess if GM would of signed Shelby on to letting them use their small blocks, the words coming out of our mouths would be different.
As for the marketing of the cars today, this isnt 1966. He is not the only one runnign the Shelby name anymore, his company has a board, and its not up to him to make the final decisions anymore. You get a name like Ford, and a new generation of gear heads who crave for a Cobra name, or anything with Shelby on it, and oyu know they are stupid enough to pay, then by all means start the name pasting. I would do the same, you all say he's overpricing these, your sure it isnt Ford saying oh well Shelby's name is on it, we can make a little more dough on this now. Shelby sold off the Cobra name to Ford in 1969, you think Ford gave that back to Shelby.....No, Ford still owns the name. Like I said, If I was him, and I saw kids today wanting to buy my stuff, and are willing to even ifthe price is outragious, by all means lets get this stuff rolling down the assembly line, and im sure you would do the same thing, money is money.
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
Scott, I don't think scumbag is too harsh an assessment for someone so arrogant that they sued their own fan club, sold illegal "continuation cars" as original vins under the title of a production company that defaulted 25 years ago, and didn't do 99.9% of the engineering work he is credited with.
Shelby was a hell of a driver, also a hell of a salesman though.
/rant
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Cause you were the attorny for all that has happened. We only know as much as anybody else. He drop the lawsuit first off. They were using his companies name. He wanted a list of the members and information from the site, and everything that was goign on. they didnt wantto and a lawsuit ensued. and as you can see, they came to an agreement, and the rest is history. As for the illegal cars, he supplied the parts to the company building these Elanore clones, but wasent directly building them, Unique was the one building them. does he have an involvement, yes, he should of payed more attention to what they were doing, but is he the one responsible, no. Im amazed at how you guys have no problem calling him a scumbag, and this and that, and yet as much as he should be nothign but dirt, I see his cars getting higher and higher with price tags, I wonder why that is, maybe cause people like me that have a more open mind, outside of GM, actually see the greatness this guy is, and his achievements in the automotive field. I dont expect any of you to go, you know he is right, Im a fan of Shelby now, but you have no right calling him a scumbag and such. you like Yunick, thats great, you dont see me on here calling him a blatent sneaky cheating son of a bitch that couldnt handle making a race car, no he had to cheat to win. And as for Penske, I like him, he's been a very sucessful driver/ owner , and had such great drivernames grace his cars. Oh Mark Donohue, only god knows what racing might of looked like today if you were still here.
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Originally Posted by cbrrmike
no, i wouldn't let someone sign my truck or car. paper or photographs are good for me just because it has some sharpie marks on it does not make it special, who's to say you didn't do it yourself? did it come with a certificate of authenticity?
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Did it come with it, yeah cause i can make certificates of authenticity while hes right there signing it right in front of me. I didnt buy his autograph off of QVC, i met the guy in person, holy **** . Here, you want proof, here ya go.
